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Subject: [Leica] Leica users group, LUG, so what does that mean?
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 07:00:52 +0100
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There you have your answers. I have met somewhere between 20 and 30 LUG 
members in person over the years, and many have become real friends.
And BTW, I still use Leica equipment although more often than not it means a 
Leica lens on a Fuji body.

Cheers,
Nathan

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> On 01 Feb 2016, at 01:54, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> HI Steve and CREW!
> The LUG? Without question? 
> It is a very strong part of my life, heart & soul without question. Gerry 
> and I have had similar life experiences in the loss of our wives. The 
> difference? Mine occurred here at home in Victoria. 
> And Gerry? Well Sir you have felt the "CLOSENESS OF CREW" when it was most 
> needed and felt! WHEN YOU WEREN'T EVEN IN YOUR OWN HOME NOR COUNTRY!<<<<  
> And that my friends is how a family works, together strongly bonded when 
> it seems all hell is descending upon us! Many of us respond willingly as 
> though we truly were blood brothers & sisters! 
> The "Family" responses from the LUG CREW were enormous! The offerings of 
> sympathy, caring, prayers beyond ones wildest thoughts. They were real 
> warm, close from the heart by so many, quite an amazing aspect of life 
> among "what we might call a family off a computer screen for the most." 
> 
> Sure I'd say the few of us who've stood face to face and shared the warm 
> introduction of friendship handshake they truly are that! 
> A firm meaning of becoming friends that unfortunately? Is rarely found in 
> the atmosphere of  Planet Earth lately.
> Certainly with the strength by many of this most incredible group even 
> with a bit of a spin-off from the original "LUG" by our very own Brien 
> Reid  who sowed the seeds to grow into the power house group it is! Thank 
> you Brien wherever you are? 
> So there you are whomever? And in numbers? "THE LUG FOR ME ISN'T JUST A 
> BUNCH OF CHATTER ON THE SCREEN?" Oh sure some days and weeks it becomes a 
> chatter box to drive you crazy? Now that's quite an honest comment By me?? 
> :-)  Probably one of the malcontents about the techies? :-) 
> Hey techie guys "I REALLY DO LOVE YOU! I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 
> HELL YER' TALKIN' ABOUT!" OK be nice when you respond! thank you all folks 
> as it's a "WRAP!"
> cheers,
> Dr. ted OC  :-) 
> ==============================================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Gerry Walden
> Sent: January-31-16 2:21 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica users group, LUG, so what does that mean?
> 
> When I switched away from leica gear some 12 years ago I said I should 
> leave the LUG but was told that it was a Leica state of mind that was 
> important. This is my ?family? and that came home to me very solidly when 
> my dear wife died on a trip to meet fellow LUG members in Barcelona. The 
> support I received in person from Lluis, Greg and others will never be 
> forgotten by both me and my daughters. It got us through a very difficult 
> time, and nothing was too much trouble. I will be eternally grateful for 
> that - that is ?family?!
> 
> I am back to using Leica now because it is a state of mind: you eiether 
> get it or you don?t.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jan 2016, at 21:30, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> I agree with most of what you say, but the LUG serves as a source of 
>> information and camaraderie for many of us, regardless of the name or 
>> point of origin.  To quote some ancient philosopher, "If it ain't broke, 
>> don't fix it".
>> 
>> I started out with used Leica gear more than sixty years ago.  Why? 
>> Because I did my due diligence and found it to be the best that I could 
>> afford.  It served me well.  But, while raising a family, I limited my 
>> purchases, and found used gear of other brands that served my needs.  
>> Then, as film processors disappeared with the advent of digital, I looked 
>> for a digital camera.  I found Olympus and Fuji gear that was adaptable, 
>> for much less investment than Leica's products.  I even purchased 
>> previously-owned Leica-R lenses to use with these cameras, because I 
>> still loved the quality of Leica lenses. But, for amateur  use, I cannot 
>> justify new Leica gear at today's prices.
>> 
>> I enjoy reading of the experiences of others who do choose to buy and use 
>> the new gear, and try to keep abreast of the times.  And, I think our 
>> past dedication to Leica products keeps this list intact and functional, 
>> regardless of the name on the camera we are currently holding in our 
>> hands.
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents.
>> 
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> 
>> On 1/31/2016 2:56 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>> Leica users group, LUG,  what does that mean?  Several individuals have 
>>> confided to me recently, "it?s really a state of mind?.  Let?s face it, 
>>> there are few offerings of interest from Leica these days, that we can 
>>> afford, or desire to, while more and more  we all find great offerings 
>>> from many other camera and lens makers. We all insist we are leica 
>>> devotees, yet many of us, if not most, are using other makers' cameras 
>>> and lenses. We often find that leica lenses from the past, actually work 
>>> as well on other makers current camera bodies, sometimes better than on 
>>> leica?s own bodies. We publish a wonderful yearly book of photos, that 
>>> we call the LUG yearbook, yet insist that the photos can come from any 
>>> and all camera/lens sources,  and images do originate from many other 
>>> sources. We criticize robustly, even occasionally correctly, the 
>>> offerings from Leica, their appearance, technical details, prices, yet 
>>> we remain here and claim to be Leica users. So what is it that we have 
>>> in common, that keeps here in this group, why do we self identify as 
>>> Leica users ?
>>> 
>>> There are some truly great photographers here, not because they use 
>>> leicas, other reasons may exist. We really are a community, sometimes 
>>> even a family, occasionally very dysfunctional. Some of the most 
>>> opinionated among us use leicas, or used to, or desire to, even though 
>>> at present that use is limited, or nonexistent.
>>> 
>>> We are at present, among the most capable, open minded, flexible, sure 
>>> of ourselves, opinionated, fractious, difficult, stuck up shooters that 
>>> exist.
>>> 
>>> It may be time to talk.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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