Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Paul, Thanks. It will take me a while to get my head around that! Cheers Jayanand On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote: > Jayanand, > > I personally favor through the lens viewing. I also really like the > viewfinder level, particularly for wide angles. So, getting a high MP TTL, > electronic viewfinder (EVF) body that allows the best wide angle lenses is > something I keep an eye out for. The major disappointment with Sony a7r > line is its poor edge performance with M optics. We're hearing conflicting > views regarding the SL. It's in part probably a lens-by-lens design > variation. Some people are also just testing at close distances, which > does not show the problem as much due to the lens to sensor distance being > increased. > > I probably will not be satisfied until the electronics makers figure out > how to incorporate the IR filter in the chip itself. Once the AA filter is > gone, then the IR filter is, as far as I can tell, the primary problem. It > is there only because the sensor spectral sensitivity is wrong for > photography. I believe they should be able to find a doping agent in the > manufacturing stage that corrects that and eliminates the IR filter. The > micro-lenses stay (for now) and appear to be able to be compromised > sufficiently for wide v. telephoto use within a reasonable range, at least > for specific photo styles. This may be where the M and SL lines ultimately > differ a bit. The M is more for wides, the SL more for longer lenses. > Even the micro-lenses, I believe, lend themselves to solutions that should > be able to expand the range of acceptable ray angles. It may sound odd > being critical of the semiconductor industry, but I'm not seeing the type > of innovation we used to see. Sony and Intel appear to have become > bureaucracies -- but very good ones. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at > gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Paul, > > I am curious - what advantage do you see in using the SL instead of > > the M240 for wide angle use? I am not able to understand what it could > > be. > > Cheers > > Jayanand > > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I'm curious how the wides will perform relative to the M240. If there > > is a > > > difference, I suspect it might be due to Leica using a different filter > > > over the sensor. I would not be surprised of the M9 glass issue was > > > related to it being thinner than all the others use. There now seems > to > > be > > > a replacement glass that is more durable. I would like to see a > > comparison > > > test of an M9 before and after the glass change. When I get my M9 back > > > from Leica I'll see if I can do that. > > > > > > I think the filter over the sensor/obtuse light angle problem has not > yet > > > been totally solved. Combine the possibility of changes on this front > > with > > > the apparent practice of some lens makers to design the lens to offset > > the > > > sensor cover stack effects, and it just might put a variable into the > > > formula that makes investment in an expensive lens set less attractive. > > > > > > Getting rid of that filter has now replaced my previous desire to get > rid > > > of the mirror in SLRs. > > > > > > Paul > > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Steve Barbour < > steve.barbour at gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Bravo, enjoy it Tina, tell us, I know you will ! > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >> > On Nov 18, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Mine is being shipped to the dealer today and should be here this > > week or > > >> > early next week. > > >> > > > >> > Tina > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Nathan Wajsman < > photo at frozenlight.eu > > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> But equally important is to weed out the corporate shills. Anybody > > who > > >> has > > >> >> a prototype from Leica is an insider in my view, and I certainly > take > > >> such > > >> >> a person?s reviews with a big grain of salt. The most trustworthy > > >> reviews > > >> >> are by people who buy the equipment like you and I would have to do > > and > > >> >> have no connection with or privileged access to the manufacturer, > > e.g. > > >> >> Consumer Reports. > > >> >> > > >> >> Cheers, > > >> >> Nathan > > >> >> > > >> >> Nathan Wajsman > > >> >> Alicante, Spain > > >> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> > > >> >> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu > > >> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws < > > >> >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: > > http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > > >> < > > >> >> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> > > >> >> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator < > > >> >> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> > > >> >> YNWA > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>> On 18 Nov 2015, at 17:16, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> > wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> There are lots of reviews if you just Google Leica SL reviews, but > > you > > >> do > > >> >>> have to ignore the Leica-haters and there are a lot of them out > > there! > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Tina > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> Leica Users Group. > > >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Tina Manley > > >> > http:// > > >> > < > > >> > > > http://t.sidekickopen28.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgfmKYPW4WzBHl3Mx_9dW3LqWkM56dQ1Jf7P8b5b02?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftina-manley.artistwebsites.com%2F&si=6038418186567680&pi=f026e4f1-5e16-462f-87dd-cef12a4d7f92 > > >> > > > >> > www.tinamanley.com > > >> > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/ > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Leica Users Group. > > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >