Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/24

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Subject: [Leica] BIG new Leica
From: mark at (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:48:33 -0400

The last time anyone posted a shot taken with an M8 was when?
There are about none in use.

On 10/24/15 6:34 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at> wrote:

> Mark, the point is you've never used it, many people are using it now with
> great results, and you were called out for a negative opinion of a Leica 
> you'd
> never used vs. your claim that people give you a hard time for a positive
> opinion of Leica equipment.
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at>
>> Sent: Oct 24, 2015 3:08 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica
>> The M8 was one disaster after another almost weekly new issues and was
>> looked upon by the entire photo community was awe and dismay as the bad 
>> news
>> kept coming in  it like no camera anyone ever heard of.  It way out 
>> Edseled
>> the Edsel.  Yet it did keep Leica in the lens selling business new lenses
>> and paved the way for the almost commercially viable M9  (largely ignored 
>> by
>> pros) and at least was not an embarrassment which paved the way for the
>> completely commercially viable M out now.. But by then though all the
>> serious Leica shooters had gone DSLR and were not in a hurry to invest in
>> seven grand bodies with six grand glass which required more than one body 
>> as
>> at least of them is going to be in a far off shop for not a short time.
>> For Leica to have gotten its very first digital attempt right and 
>> seamlessly
>> jumped right into the digital camera business would have been much more
>> interesting and unlikely news. It was a huge leap for Leica to make and
>> guess what it didn't make it all that wonderfully and instantly.
>> And I dare to disparage the M8!  If somebody wants to read positive stuff 
>> on
>> the M8 they're going to have to read it here became they're not going to
>> find it anywhere else. Its a blooper the modern Leica company would love 
>> to
>> forget. And please tell us about how you're using it for infra red.
>> I think the die hards all but one or two have been stuck with the fact 
>> that
>> their camera have locked up and died and its a lesson hopefully well
>> learned. Be careful about buying first outs from companies who have close 
>> to
>> zero experience in a new burgeoning technology but plenty of experience in
>> the opposite.
>> Had the camera been successful it would have been a minor modern miracle.
>> With a little luck it would have had a few less issues. But that luck with
>> not to be found that time round.
>> On 10/24/15 5:46 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at> wrote:
>>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> I remain the only person on any photo list who gets is opinions thrown 
>>>> back
>>>> at him if he doesn't have a notarized receipt of the item at hand. It 
>>>> makes
>>>> me feel very special. I've notice the most I get in trouble on this 
>>>> list is
>>>> when I say something positive about a Leica product.
>>> It's also when you say something negative about something you've never 
>>> used,
>>> Leica or otherwise.  Do you recall the M8?
>>> Doug Herr
>>> Birdman of Sacramento
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>> -- 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
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Mark William Rabiner

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