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Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: BIG new Leica - TINA
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:11:21 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1DEjCVm2kMWfiPFmv6xCmTtRgSVAtK-d3a5_bs0mgJYTQ@mail.gmail.com> <D24ECF3C.4ABCB%mark@rabinergroup.com>

My friend who owns ImageOne in Riverside said Sony is selling like
gangbusters over Nikon and Canon.  He has many pro's coming in and jumping
ship to use the Sony mirrorless.  He should know as it is his sales.

Aram

Aram Langhans
(Semi) Retired  Science Teacher
& Unemployed photographer
?
?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself
would ever have dared dream.??? James D. Watson


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Rabiner [mailto:mark at rabinergroup.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:37 PM
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: BIG new Leica - TINA

Someone mentioned in the many reviews coming out somthign to the tune of
"have you ever used an mirrorless camera before?" as it might be a big of a
shock we're used to cameras on our faces for decades not being held out in
front of us.
I don't belive they are catching on with serious users and pros like gang
busters. Somewhere I'm sure there must be list of serious pros whose names
ring a bell who use them now but I cant Bing nor Google it anywhere.
I did read a thing "44 percent of all pros have switched to mirrorless" on
sights selling computer flash drives.


On 10/22/15 4:44 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Q is very light and plastic feeling.  The SL is heavy and 
> brick-like.More like an M.  I will just have to learn to work with the 
> EVF which
others seem
> to love.  The reviews say it is much faster with less lag than
the Q which is
> what made me dizzy.  I don't use the EVF on the M240 much.
Only when I have
> the R lenses on it.

Tina

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, John McMaster
> <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:

> Will it be much different from the Q viewfinder that you seemed to 
> hate?
> Or to an M(240) with (lower resolution) EVF?
>
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> You can use all of the Leica M and R
> lenses on it with adapters but they
> won't be autofocus.  Supposedly the very large, bright viewfinder 
> makes it easier to manually focus them.
>
>
> Tina
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The Leica SL with a small lens on it
> would be near pocketable (jacket
> > exterior pocket) unlike the Nikon. But
> like the M
> >
> > I think we need to not define a camera body by the stupidly
> huge lens
> > someone puts on it. Any camera body can have a modest to compact
> optic
> > on front of it instead of a metal munching fast zoom or a zoom with
> an
> > overly wide range... And VR makes a lens way heavier and I think
> bulkier.
> >
> > I'm saying put more Leicalike glass in front of these bodies
> and we
> > can see how they compare with an M with a typical M optic on it.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/22/15 3:50 PM, "Aram Langhans"
> <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting.  He also seems to state
> it has better image quality
> > > than
> > the M.
> > > Here is a quote:
> >
> >
> > > "The SL is not a cheap camera ? EUR6,000+ for the body and a 
> > > further> EUR4,000+ for each lens makes this the preserve of the 
> > > very wealthy,
> >
> though
> > > in reality I suspect most of Leica?s existing audience will see
> this
> > > one
> > as
> > > a no-brainer. M lenses are now virtually native,
> as are R lenses;
> > > they?re easy to focus and image quality is better than
> from the M
> > > cameras. It
> > would
> > > have been nice to see more
> resolution, but I suspect this might have
> > eaten
> > > uncomfortably into S
> system sales. I actually suspect this camera is
> > > the beginning of the end
> of the M resurgence ? a typical complaint
> > > from M
> > users
> > > I know
> is one of deteriorating eyesight and difficulty in achieving
> > focus.
> > >
> We no longer have that problem. And for those used to paying $7,000+
> > >
> for
> > a
> > > body, the SL isn?t a stretch at all."
> > >
> > > He also goes
> on a bit about the size.   BIG
> > >
> > > Aram Langhans
> > > (Semi) Retired
> Science Teacher
> > > & Unemployed photographer
> > >
> > > ?The Human Genome
> Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin
> > himself
> > > would ever
> have dared dream.?   James D. Watson
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original
> Message-----
> > > From: John McMaster [mailto:john at mcmaster.fr]
> > > Sent:
> Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:58 AM
> > > To: 'Leica Users Group'
> <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica - TINA
> > >
>
> > > It is the lenses, almost same size and weight as S lenses!
> > >
> > >
> https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5790/21615453253_1c85b372e2_c.jpg
> > >
> > >
> SL compared to a D810 with 24-120/4 lens....
> > >
> > > (from
> > >
> http://blog.mingthein.com/2015/10/21/premiere-review-2015-leica-sl-6
> > >
> 01/
> > )
> > >
> > > john
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > > It's really not that big of a camera, but folks are hung up on 
> > > this
>
> > > idea that a mirrorless camera has to be a tiny little thing.
> > > SL size
> compared to a digital M:
> > > https://tinyurl.com/ppbdsr8
> > >
> > > I look
> forward to seeing what you can do with it, Tina.
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > >
> On 10/21/2015 3:17 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> > >> Has anybody posted a photo of
> it compared to the size of the M9 or
> > >> the M240?  The Sony and Fuji
> mirrorless cameras are actually too
> > >> small and too light for me.
> >
> >>
> > >> Tina
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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