Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]smart guy well said ric > On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> > wrote: > > I guess I am the old and grumpy ex-editor guy (I don't know how Jim managed > for 8 years!) > The format and the requirements for this 10th edition is exactly the same > as the last 9 years. > If this was to be changed now, it makes a LOT of extra work for Richard, > not to mention I guarantee that people would be unhappy no matter which > submitted images he chose for a final edit. Don't put that on him. Imagine > if photog A sends in say 10 he is really proud of but only 2 are chose, But > Photog B has 5 images included. Right now the editor is a compiler and > coordinator for everyone's benefit. No-one has ever judged any yearbook > image. > > No-one buys the book either unless they contribute. A tiny book with few > contributors will have no more customers than that either. I did exactly > that with two books containing 5 images each by some great LUG > photographers like Tina and Ted for example. People just won't buy these, > even at cost .You don't have to buy it as a contributor either of course. > We did introduce a lower cost way of having it though (the E book) > > It's only 2 images you need to pick and contribute people! You had nearly a > whole year to shoot and choose for yourself and you still have weeks to > submit them. I extended that period last year, ending it 2 weeks earlier so > I wasn't editing up to midnight on NYE. As it was I got complaint on > Christmas morning which was the final straw on why I quit. > My experience with the longer contribution period was that the first weeks > brought only a trickle of images and despite dozens of posts advertising > and explaining everything I still got people who told me they weren't aware > of the slightly earlier cutoff. > > Mark I can see on my bookshelf that you contributed images some years back. > Are you going to contribute to this one then? > Adam you are good until mid December. I look forward to seeing your images > in the book. > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:12:34 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit >> more >> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less >> people >> are submitting pictures. >> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept them >> all. >> >> >> On 10/18/15 9:17 AM, "Dan Khong" <dankhong at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Richard >>> >>> I think you will get more contributors along the way till closing date. >>> >>> If there are few contributors this year, then we have a thin book. If >> there >>> are more contributors, then we have a thicker book. Either way, there >> will be >>> a 2015 LUG Year Book. The fact of the matter is that we have people like >> you, >>> and Jim and Geoff who have sacrificially decided to organise LUG Year >> Books >>> despite all the bellyaching from people who own the finest equipment in >> this >>> world but prefer to keep their images to themselves. >>> >>> But there are others not like them, so we are thankful for the handful >> who >>> care enough to support. >>> >>> Dan K. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:29:49 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably not >> one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images >> puts the burden of editing on them. >> >> Somehow I?ve missed the date for submissions. We?re only in October, >> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I >> admit that I?ve missed the actual deadline date. >> >> Adam >> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit >> more >>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less >> people >>> are submitting pictures. >>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept them >>> all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:43:32 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> Creativity happens in a last minute pace; nothing happens without a >> deadline >> and deadlines have a way of being gone over but at least there was >> something >> to go over. Deadline extensions are not that unusual.. Depending on how >> the >> person laying out the whole thing can deal with it. >> Also as someone said nothing all that horrible about one year having a >> thinner issue. >> >> On 10/21/15 12:29 PM, "Adam Bridge" <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably >> not one >>> most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images puts >> the >>> burden of editing on them. >> >> Somehow I?ve missed the date for submissions. >>> We?re only in October, however. Most of us are used to the traditional >>> end-of-year deadline. I admit that I?ve missed the actual deadline >>> date. >> >> Adam >> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner >>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >>> >>> I think that the people submitting >>> pictures should be allowed to submit more >>> pictures especially in a case >>> where you're finding a year where less people >>> are submitting pictures. >>> >>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept >> them> >>> all. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See >>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:14:43 +0100 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> Adam >> >> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to >> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse! >> >> Gerry >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably >> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two >> images >> puts the burden of editing on them. >>> >>> Somehow I?ve missed the date for submissions. We?re only in October, >> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I >> admit that I?ve missed the actual deadline date. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit >> more >>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less >> people >>>> are submitting pictures. >>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept >> them >>>> all. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:33:15 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> You have two months for two pics. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to >> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse! >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably >> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two >> images >> puts the burden of editing on them. >>>> >>>> Somehow I?ve missed the date for submissions. We?re only in October, >> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I >> admit that I?ve missed the actual deadline date. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to >> submit more >>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less >> people >>>>> are submitting pictures. >>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept >> them >>>>> all. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:30:30 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting more >> than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to put >> in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2. >> >> So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement. >> >> Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but >> before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at >> gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You have two months for two pics. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to >>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse! >>>> >>>> Gerry >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably >>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two >> images >>> puts the burden of editing on them. >>>>> >>>>> Somehow I?ve missed the date for submissions. We?re only in October, >>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I >>> admit that I?ve missed the actual deadline date. >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to >>> submit more >>>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less >>> people >>>>>> are submitting pictures. >>>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept >>> them >>>>>> all. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >> To: LUG list <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:39:46 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at >>> richardmanphoto.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting >> more >>> than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to >> put >>> in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2. >> >> >> meaning what? >> >>> >>> So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement. >>> >>> Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but >>> before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at >>> gmail.com >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You have two months for two pics. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to >>>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse! >>>>> >>>>> Gerry >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably >>>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two >> images >>>> puts the burden of editing on them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Somehow I?ve missed the date for submissions. We?re only in October, >>>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I >>>> admit that I?ve missed the actual deadline date. >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to >>>> submit more >>>>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less >>>> people >>>>>>> are submitting pictures. >>>>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept >>>> them >>>>>>> all. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc: >> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:15:10 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 >> Meaning that if you are inspired to send in more than 2, feel free. I may >> or may not put in more than 2. >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at >> gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at >>>> richardmanphoto.com >>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting >>> more >>>> than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to >>> put >>>> in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2. >>> >>> >>> meaning what? >>> >>>> >>>> So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement. >>>> >>>> Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but >>>> before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour < >> steve.barbour at gmail.com >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You have two months for two pics. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at >>>>>> icloud.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased >> to >>>>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse! >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerry >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and >> probably >>>>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two >>> images >>>>> puts the burden of editing on them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somehow I?ve missed the date for submissions. We?re only in October, >>>>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. >> I >>>>> admit that I?ve missed the actual deadline date. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to >>>>> submit more >>>>>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where >> less >>>>> people >>>>>>>> are submitting pictures. >>>>>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't >> accept >>>>> them >>>>>>>> all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >>>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto >> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information