[Leica] Voigtlander Nokton 1.1 yes or no?

[jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)]

The 50/2 collapsible Summicron is a very nice lens if one can find it 
without cleaning marks. 

An current alternative is also the Voigtlander 50/2 Heliar. Not as sharp as 
the 50/1.5 Nokton, but more pleasing bokeh. 

Jeffery

> On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Jeff Moore <jbmmllug at jbm.org> wrote:
> 
> The Zeiss ZMs are good modern optics at very fair lower-than-Leica prices.
> 
> For a lovely classic-optic look (but with the possibility of getting
> chosen things quite nicely detailed, if you put them in the middle)
> I'm a fan of the pre-ASPH 50 Summilux.  But I don't know where prices
> for those are these days.
> 
> I also haven't done an extensive study of how mine focuses relative to
> where the rangefinder thinks it's focused, but I don't recall having
> been annoyed by it a lot.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> I agree that it isn?t very versatile, and exists only to give the 50s 
>> Sonnar look. It is best for faces (which is Kyle?s favorite subject). As 
>> Chris suggested, the Planar is sharper but maybe a little harsh.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
>>> richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But Jeff, if it is optimized for 1.5, then you have to rely on DoF to get
>>> focus for other aperture. It just does not make sense to use this lens.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> They can optimize it for f/1.5 free of charge if it is still under
>>>> warranty. It's the same optical formula as the 50 1.5 Sonnar from the 
>>>> 1950s.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
>>>>> richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Zeiss 50/1,5 makes no sense to me. If you need to use it @F 2.8,, 
>>>>> why
>>>>> not just get an Elmar?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at 
>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or the Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar. It has some focus shift, so stop it down 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> 2.8. Optimized for f/2.8.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b8wqqca
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 1:17 PM, kyle cassidy on the LUG <
>>>>>> leicaslacker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi folks --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My trusty $100 Canon Serenar has picked up a slight wobble, I'm not
>>>> sure
>>>>>> if this is a portent of evil to come or if I just never noticed it
>>>> before --
>>>>>> but the front element section will move around a bit if you wiggle it
>>>>>> ("stop wiggling it!" advice I thank you for in advance).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm thinking of preemptively replacing it. I was going to go for a
>>>>>> Voigtlander 1.5, which seem to be about $900 in Leica M mount, but
>>>> noticed
>>>>>> that the Nokton 1.1 was going for about $650 -- any thoughts on 
>>>>>> whether
>>>> the
>>>>>> nokton would work as my only 50 or is it too big for every day use?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Suggestions of other 50's you have lying around in drawers and want 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get rid of also taken.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Priorities are:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1) no slower than f2
>>>>>>> 2) focusing closer than 3 feet (which means any screwmount 50 is in,
>>>>>> though I'd prefer an M mount that I could focus closer without having 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> resort to the penny-shim trick.)
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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