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Subject: [Leica] Voigtlander Nokton 1.1 yes or no?
From: jbmmllug at jbm.org (Jeff Moore)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:12:50 -0400
References: <C100AA41-150A-4240-9DC3-B6A553D1A8A5@gmail.com> <DA460484-E037-424F-B6D9-DAC98A8E5F45@gmail.com> <CAF8hL-FG4oOC4rSYs1xy2bJqVDZ8f+N6cycF4zK=bD8DgJrMWQ@mail.gmail.com> <4E97371C-5A07-4843-90AE-410E42123DD8@gmail.com> <CAF8hL-FQj1t9-zhjC7Z1yQThhzOi6u7quJ7x5+Tc-xDF1cy+Vw@mail.gmail.com> <63730231-070F-40C1-B37F-E25AF76C5FB6@gmail.com>

The Zeiss ZMs are good modern optics at very fair lower-than-Leica prices.

For a lovely classic-optic look (but with the possibility of getting
chosen things quite nicely detailed, if you put them in the middle)
I'm a fan of the pre-ASPH 50 Summilux.  But I don't know where prices
for those are these days.

I also haven't done an extensive study of how mine focuses relative to
where the rangefinder thinks it's focused, but I don't recall having
been annoyed by it a lot.


On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> I agree that it isn?t very versatile, and exists only to give the 50s 
> Sonnar look. It is best for faces (which is Kyle?s favorite subject). As 
> Chris suggested, the Planar is sharper but maybe a little harsh.
>
>
>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> But Jeff, if it is optimized for 1.5, then you have to rely on DoF to get
>> focus for other aperture. It just does not make sense to use this lens.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They can optimize it for f/1.5 free of charge if it is still under
>>> warranty. It's the same optical formula as the 50 1.5 Sonnar from the 
>>> 1950s.
>>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
>>>> richardmanphoto.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Zeiss 50/1,5 makes no sense to me. If you need to use it @F 2.8,, 
>>>> why
>>>> not just get an Elmar?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Or the Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar. It has some focus shift, so stop it down to
>>>>> 2.8. Optimized for f/2.8.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b8wqqca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 1:17 PM, kyle cassidy on the LUG <
>>>>> leicaslacker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My trusty $100 Canon Serenar has picked up a slight wobble, I'm not
>>> sure
>>>>> if this is a portent of evil to come or if I just never noticed it
>>> before --
>>>>> but the front element section will move around a bit if you wiggle it
>>>>> ("stop wiggling it!" advice I thank you for in advance).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking of preemptively replacing it. I was going to go for a
>>>>> Voigtlander 1.5, which seem to be about $900 in Leica M mount, but
>>> noticed
>>>>> that the Nokton 1.1 was going for about $650 -- any thoughts on whether
>>> the
>>>>> nokton would work as my only 50 or is it too big for every day use?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suggestions of other 50's you have lying around in drawers and want to
>>>>> get rid of also taken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Priorities are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) no slower than f2
>>>>>> 2) focusing closer than 3 feet (which means any screwmount 50 is in,
>>>>> though I'd prefer an M mount that I could focus closer without having 
>>>>> to
>>>>> resort to the penny-shim trick.)
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
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Replies: Reply from jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith) ([Leica] Voigtlander Nokton 1.1 yes or no?)
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