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Subject: [Leica] Possible M8 purchase - HELP!
From: nwajsman at gmail.com (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:21:20 +0200
References: <D1C7390C.3FDB2%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Despite that early trip to Solms, my M8 has been with me, delivering 
thousands of images, for 6 1/2 years now. 

Meanwhile, you have been shooting with Nikon and spewing garbage.

Nathan Wajsman

Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
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YNWA













> On 12 Jul 2015, at 03:20, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> The smartness or dumbness of buying a Leica M8 at this date mid 2015 would
> depend solely on the price in which you are buying it. (at)
> The viability of this camera as is being expressed now on the Lug is
> surprising in that there are countless treads on how the camera which never
> worked soon stops working altogether.
> I would suggest that the people here on the Lug willing to part with theirs
> to take them up on it. If the price is super low like in a couple of bucks.
> And you are otherwise totally in the flush and willing to throw good money
> out the window that you'd otherwise not be spending on food, shelter or a
> camera which worked.
> 
> Leica fired its CEO for suggesting that a digital Leica M was possible.
> It also said that any Leica M would be full frame.
> It then came out with its first out M. a cropped digital M. The M8.
> It kept Leica  lenses selling but otherwise was one of the biggest 
> disasters
> in camera history. Made the Edsal in comparison seem like a success.
> Its best to keep it as a historical footnote.
> 
> 
> On 7/10/15 3:37 PM, "John McMaster" <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
> 
>> I read some of those 1940s and early 1950s LFP magazines, the technical
>> stuff in there runs rings about anything spoken now.......
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> Hi CREW! :-) 
>> My M8 works just fine so far (touch wood or gold?) it will continue to do
>> so. I use a 15mm lens that is killer sharp! And yes I know the "hole where
>> the image travels through the camera or whatever?" It's only 18mm! (Thanks
>> Bob Adler as I never knew that and always thought?  "WOW, neat wide angle
>> 15mm!" just got to love it! :-)
>> 
>> Then my dear friend Bob Adler informed me about the 18mm hole "ONLY!" :-( 
>> Or
>> whatever?? BROKE MY HEART AS NOW I FEEL CHEATED BY 3MM's every time I go
>> super-wide! :-)??????
>> Now if he hadn't been such a good friend he wouldn't have told me and I'd
>> have gone on for the rest of my days enjoying my beautiful Voigtlander 
>> 15mm
>> Super-Wide lens with it's wonderful 15mm capture view.
>> 
>> I make 13X19 prints (colour or B&W) and they look beautiful! And if you 
>> tell
>> someone looking at a 13X19 print that it's a super-wide angle 15mm view, 
>> as
>> I believed until Bob enlightened me?  aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
>> BROKEN HEARTED NOW!!!! :-(
>> 
>> The viewing person is quite complimentary about what a beautiful! READY??
>> "Super wide angle photo it is!" And I don't have the heart to tell them 
>> that
>> it's only 18mm!
>> 
>> THE BOTTOMLINE TO THIS IS???????? Do you really need to know all this
>> ittsy-bitsy detail?  IE: The fact the camera opening is only 18mm and not 
>> MY
>> belief it's 15mm? You buy the lens as a 15mm Super wide. ERGO! You believe
>> that is the recorded image size!
>> 
>> So if you don't know about the 3mm difference in coverage due to the "M8
>> camera body" you will go through your life super pleased with your "15mm"
>> Super wide lens!" And not knowing the "truth of 18mm coverage?"
>> 
>> So like when some of you lads point out various little things of that
>> nature?
>> I don't have a clue what yer talking about? So it doesn't matter as my
>> photos and prints look just like wonderful "Happy Snaps!" And I'm quite
>> pleased clients don't bitch as they don't know either! They just smile, 
>> pay
>> the invoice and offer:
>> "JUST GREAT TED! CHAMPION JOB! BEAUTIFUL VIEW!"
>> 
>> And my dear family that is truly all that matters! A smiling happy faced
>> client as they hand you your cheque! :-)
>> 
>> So please in the future unless it's something about to cause a complete
>> camera melt down to a gooooooiiiieee mess?  Please don't tell me! Or in 
>> some
>> cases keep it to yourself because the truth of it all? "IT REALLY DOESN'T
>> MATTER!" As it's still the person holding & clicking the moment!
>> 
>> have a nice day! :-)
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted  ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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