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Subject: [Leica] Barnack Award
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 09:14:19 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1Cwu-LvcWaptodqKiCqp1U02wqbeiQmHHmVKQ+3gk_B8g@mail.gmail.com> <0653E629-4CE1-4F38-9363-7A78C86CD881@bex.net> <000a01d0bba0$bc0ec370$342c4a50$@ca> <FC242031-3D2E-4835-B1C9-92D0A3191810@frozenlight.eu>

Absolutely Nathan!! This garbage should've been deleted the first moment it 
appeared on screen. Even considering it for the Barnack Award is an insult 
to those of us who are real photographers!
cheers,
Dr. ted  :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of Nathan Wajsman
Sent: July-10-15 11:59 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Barnack Award

Tell us how you really feel, Ted ;-)

But yes: as is the case with much art photography today (as opposed to other 
modern art which I enjoy exploring), it is very much a case of Emperor?s New 
Clothes.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman

Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/

Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator

YNWA













> On 11 Jul 2015, at 08:13, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Howard my dear friend,
> You couldn't have said it better! Oh sorry yes it could've been. ;-)  But 
> I truly believe the administrator would've been mighty upset at the 
> descriptive force of the language!   :-)
> 
> The other major point here is? The absolute dumb ass "so called judges" 
> who selected these questionable images must be the most dead brained 
> morons on Planet Earth! Whether they work for the LEICA CORPORATION OR NOT!
> cheers,
> Dr ted Grant  
> TEDGRANTPHOTO.COM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Howard Ritter
> Sent: July-10-15 7:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Barnack Award
> 
> No compositional technique
> No technical accomplishment
> No interesting situations or contexts
> No pleasing juxtapositions of elements, colors
> No dynamism (OK, once maybe)
> No decisive moment
> No personal insight or revelations re subjects
> Overwrought art-appreciation 101 interpretive comments and interview 
> responses
> Hyperbolic characterization of the nature of the series 
> ?Truth of an undisguised moment?? No, just artless snapshots (not 
> ?snapshot-like?, but actual snapshots!) of passers-by on bikes and scooters
> Standing in ankle-deep water? Oh, the humanity!
> 
> For heaven?s sake, these are FLASH SNAPS OF PASSING PEOPLE ON BIKES IN THE 
> RAIN AT NIGHT! Now, that would have been an honest title! The only thing 
> even moderately interesting is that they were taken by a young Polish 
> woman in China who had the nerve (and rudeness) to ambush wet, 
> inconvenienced, and annoyed people with a flash camera, without the 
> language skills to ask permission or explain herself. That kind of 
> ?interesting? is probably not something that Oskar would like to have 
> given his honorific to.
> 
> ?howard
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> "Her snapshot-like images speak of the truth of an undisguised moment."
>> 
>> http://blog.leica-camera.com/leica-videos/wiktoria-wojciechowska-leica-oskar-barnack-newcomer-award-2015/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LeicaCamera+%28Leica+Camera+Blog%29
>> 
>> Opinions?
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tina Manley
>> www.tinamanley.com
>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>> 
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Replies: Reply from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Barnack Award)
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