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Subject: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:57:42 -0700
References: <8AC5F3D0-10C8-40BF-AB34-B8F4D9FF2DBD@gmail.com> <D194E73B.3C2D5%mark@rabinergroup.com> <02ba01d09e43$1abe4920$503adb60$@mcmaster.co.nz> <CAFfkXxv19O9uD2i4KnyH=ORO=OkY3SGgukE5s60tLgGjyfnd7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Sheesh. Another new comer... just like Sony...
;-)

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wikipedia knows all,
>
> "Takumar is the name that Asahi Optical gave to its lenses, notably but not
> exclusively those for its own SLR cameras. Named after the Japanese
> craftsman Takuma Kajiwara (???? ,Kajiwara Takuma"
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takumar>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
> wrote:
>
> > I think you may be looking at the lenses from the wrong side ;-) They are
> > for using rather than looking at......
> >
> > john
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
> > Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 9:18 a.m.
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system
> >
> > Oh boy a Pentax!! Will I be able to get Super Takumar lenses? NO!
> > I know I just checked the Ricoh site.
> > A camera body is all about giving an impressive line of glass a home .
> > These babies are dog ugly...: not going to spend five grand for them.
> > http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/lens.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/3/15 12:39 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mark,
> > $8,000 for a MF SLR PLUS a MFDB of 50MP PLUS a MF 55/f2.8 about the same
> > > cost as a M240 or new M246 or Nocti 0.95 all alone.
> >
> > It's a freaking steal
> > > anyway you slice it! The Canon EOS1-D C is $8,000 18MP AND NO LENS!
> >
> > Yes it's
> > > expensive, but compared to others in the market, it's a give away!
> >
> > What are
> > > you waiting for? A Pentax complete MF camera and lens system for the
> > > same price as a Canon body... Keep us posted... :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob Adler
> > Robert Adler
> > > Photography
> > www.robertadlerphotography.com
> >
> > > On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Mark
> > > Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There's the aspect perhaps that
> > > once you're getting into thousands of
> > > dollars not just hundreds you're
> > > talking about financing. And its a thing you arrange with a banker and
> > > a payment is a payment. Its a slight bigger monthly chunk of money
> > > you're paying off to get Schneider glass or Leica glass. Or Pentax
> > > glass which is marvelously above average.
> > > So when it comes to having to finance something I'd go for the gusto.
> > > I'd not skimp on glass. And who knows what  Pentax sensor is like vs.
> > > a Leica or a PhaseOne.? No clue.
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 6/2/15 9:13
> > > PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Our local store is having a
> > > Pentax 645Z sale where if you buy the body (a50MP
> > >> back is an integral
> > > component), you get a free 55mm f/2,8 lens.
> > >
> > > For
> > >> $8k...
> > >
> > > Phase is
> > > going to have a tough time with prosumers and dilettantes
> > >> like
> > > me...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Mark Rabiner
> > >> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> A new standard in photography is being hyped with this new
> > > major upgrade to
> > >> the whole medium format PhaseOne system the whole thing
> > > seemingly totally
> > >> re
> > >> designed and the top ended of three
> > >> cameras
> > > having a CMOS but the lower two
> > >> sticking with a more traditional for
> > >>
> > > medium format CCD.
> > >> XF IQ3 80MP - $48,990 / ?38,990 CMOS
> > >> XF IQ3 60MP -
> > >>
> > > $41,990 / ?33,990 CCD
> > >> XF IQ3 50MP - $40,990 / ?31,990 CCD
> > >>
> > >> Is the top
> > > end
> > >> one the lower ones not that much cheaper.
> > >>
> > >> What really caught me
> > > is the way
> > >> the Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter
> > >> lenses
> > >> are being
> > > described or
> > >> hyped.
> > >> They are rated at  100MP. Not line pairs but MP's
> > > which are
> > >> megapixels. So
> > >> glass now is now rated now by its real
> > > resolution (line
> > >> pairs), contrast or
> > >> MTF charts but on what size digital
> > > file they can
> > >> support.
> > >> The upshot one may assume you know when you spend
> > > tens of thousands
> > >> on a
> > >> new
> > >> lens you wont be buying a camera
> > > afterwards which resolves higher
> > >> than your
> > >> lens thus putting a damper on
> > > the buying of the camera for a big
> > >> part.
> > >> To me this is a milestone but
> > > I'm ready for someone here to tell me
> > >> its
> > >> been
> > >> going on for years.
> > > This is the first I've noticed.
> > >>
> > >> I do
> > >> think I've been using for most
> > > of my digital experience over the past
> > >> dozen
> > >> years glass that resolved
> > > higher than my camera bodies. And lived.
> > >> But I've
> > >> not been in a medium
> > > format mindset. Or do set. But instead I've
> > >> been going
> > >> through the
> > > burgeoning beginnings of fairly serious digital
> > >> photography. Not
> > >> the pie
> > > in the shy over the top end.
> > >>
> > >> Lenses Ready for 100MP
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > > Mark
> > >> William Rabiner
> > >> Photographer
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com/look/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 1714
> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>
> USA
>
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-- 
Bob Adler
www.robertadlerphotography.com


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