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Subject: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:20:15 +1200
References: <8AC5F3D0-10C8-40BF-AB34-B8F4D9FF2DBD@gmail.com> <D194E73B.3C2D5%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I think you may be looking at the lenses from the wrong side ;-) They are 
for using rather than looking at......

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2015 9:18 a.m.
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Phase One XF medium format camera system

Oh boy a Pentax!! Will I be able to get Super Takumar lenses? NO!
I know I just checked the Ricoh site.
A camera body is all about giving an impressive line of glass a home .
These babies are dog ugly...: not going to spend five grand for them.
http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/645z/lens.html






On 6/3/15 12:39 AM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
$8,000 for a MF SLR PLUS a MFDB of 50MP PLUS a MF 55/f2.8 about the same
> cost as a M240 or new M246 or Nocti 0.95 all alone. 

It's a freaking steal
> anyway you slice it! The Canon EOS1-D C is $8,000 18MP AND NO LENS!

Yes it's
> expensive, but compared to others in the market, it's a give away!

What are
> you waiting for? A Pentax complete MF camera and lens system for the 
> same price as a Canon body... Keep us posted... :-)



Bob Adler
Robert Adler
> Photography
www.robertadlerphotography.com

> On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Mark
> Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> There's the aspect perhaps that
> once you're getting into thousands of
> dollars not just hundreds you're
> talking about financing. And its a thing you arrange with a banker and 
> a payment is a payment. Its a slight bigger monthly chunk of money 
> you're paying off to get Schneider glass or Leica glass. Or Pentax 
> glass which is marvelously above average.
> So when it comes to having to finance something I'd go for the gusto. 
> I'd not skimp on glass. And who knows what  Pentax sensor is like vs. 
> a Leica or a PhaseOne.? No clue.
> 
> 
>> On 6/2/15 9:13
> PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Our local store is having a
> Pentax 645Z sale where if you buy the body (a50MP
>> back is an integral
> component), you get a free 55mm f/2,8 lens.
> 
> For
>> $8k...
> 
> Phase is
> going to have a tough time with prosumers and dilettantes
>> like
> me...
> 
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Mark Rabiner
>> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> A new standard in photography is being hyped with this new
> major upgrade to
>> the whole medium format PhaseOne system the whole thing
> seemingly totally
>> re
>> designed and the top ended of three
>> cameras
> having a CMOS but the lower two
>> sticking with a more traditional for
>>
> medium format CCD.
>> XF IQ3 80MP - $48,990 / ?38,990 CMOS
>> XF IQ3 60MP -
>>
> $41,990 / ?33,990 CCD
>> XF IQ3 50MP - $40,990 / ?31,990 CCD
>> 
>> Is the top
> end
>> one the lower ones not that much cheaper.
>> 
>> What really caught me
> is the way
>> the Schneider-Kreuznach leaf shutter
>> lenses
>> are being
> described or
>> hyped.
>> They are rated at  100MP. Not line pairs but MP's
> which are
>> megapixels. So
>> glass now is now rated now by its real
> resolution (line
>> pairs), contrast or
>> MTF charts but on what size digital
> file they can
>> support.
>> The upshot one may assume you know when you spend
> tens of thousands
>> on a
>> new
>> lens you wont be buying a camera
> afterwards which resolves higher
>> than your
>> lens thus putting a damper on
> the buying of the camera for a big
>> part.
>> To me this is a milestone but
> I'm ready for someone here to tell me
>> its
>> been
>> going on for years.
> This is the first I've noticed.
>> 
>> I do
>> think I've been using for most
> of my digital experience over the past
>> dozen
>> years glass that resolved
> higher than my camera bodies. And lived.
>> But I've
>> not been in a medium
> format mindset. Or do set. But instead I've
>> been going
>> through the
> burgeoning beginnings of fairly serious digital
>> photography. Not
>> the pie
> in the shy over the top end.
>> 
>> Lenses Ready for 100MP
>> 
>> --
>>
> Mark
>> William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> 




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