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Subject: [Leica] Was: Screw the Nocti, Now: 28mm And Be There
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:39:39 -0400

Its almost a pancake. A fat pancake. A short stack.
And a flat lens like this I kind of feel like not using a lens hood on as
you want it to fit into a small bag or even a coat pocket... And got in the
way. And being a wide anyway..


On 4/6/15 5:19 PM, "Gene duprey" <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote:

> The biggest advantage to the 28 Elmarit Asph. is its size, it is tiny on 
> the
> M.  Its optical performance is also excellent in my opinion.  It is easily 
> a
> pocket camera with the 28 El. Asph. (Coat/jacket pocket).
> 
> Gene
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 1:40:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Was: Screw the Nocti, Now: 28mm And BeThere
> 
> Its not the best thinking became you are replacing a 35 with a 28 thinking
> they will be about the same while they are quite different.  (one of my
> favorite Rockwell quirks)/ A 35 is a slightly wide angle lens and a 28 is a
> decidedly wide angle lens. I've always assigned them completely different
> usages.
> 
> 
> On 4/6/15 10:13 AM, "Robert D. Baron" <robertbaron1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I bought the 28mm Summicron-M ASPH I think at about the time it was
>> released, IIRC at the Leica Seminar on Cape Cod in 2001.  I never got
>> comfortable with the focal length and sold it some years later.
>> 
>> Now I'm thinking about buying a 28mm Elmarit-M 2.8 to use on my M240,
>> mainly when I'm traveling and don't want to carry my current 35mm 
>> Summilux.
>> 
>> Is this good thinking?
>> 
>> --Bob
>> 
>> 
>> ===On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Erwin Puts:
>>> "The Summicron-M 2/28 mm ASPH. is one of the crown jewels in the Leica
>>> scuderia of lenses. It is a superb lens and after twelve years in
>>> production still not surpassed."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/5/2015 9:39 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Maybe  on this thing we should find the specs. The MTF graphs. And or 
>>>> some
>>>> reviews by people who sound like they may know what  they're talking
>>>> about.
>>>> Instead of relying on capricious or even malicious chat group gossip.
>>>> I can speak for the finish of the lens a chrome version which looked top
>>>> Leica quality to me. If that accounts for much.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/6/15 12:24 AM, "Gene duprey" <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Interesting.  i remember several years ago everyone was praising the 28
>>>>> Chron.
>>>>> I wonder what has changed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gene
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 3:06:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Screw the Nocti...
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I do street documentary, I would get a 28mm (again) for sure. I did
>>>>> most
>>>>> of my "Occupy" series with the 35 or 50mm, and I definitely would have
>>>>> loved a 28mm.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fortunately, the 28mm Cron is the unloved Leica-child, so one can get 
>>>>> it
>>>>> for around $2500 now. A bargain compares to the Nocti :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Hi Mark, I think you should go back a reread your books ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> john
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Mark Rabiner
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 6 April 2015 6:08 a.m.
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Screw the Nocti...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most of us and most photographers I've ever met unless they were just
>>>>>> starting out had both a 28 and a 24. Nobody ever didn't have either.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> would be crazy. Its always been a basic focal length. Its one of the
>>>>>> frame
>>>>>> lines in M's since the M2 in 1957.
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> 
> 




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Mark William Rabiner
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