Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/07/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think if they ever come out with a 4x5 back, we will see people mortgaging their multi-million dollar homes ~_o On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > duh... > thx! > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Richard Man <richard at > richardmanphoto.com> > wrote: > > > Bob, I think you meant 645 when you wrote 4x5 :-) > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Mark, > > > Beware the Siren's call... > > > Phase, at admittedly higher prices, allows all their offerings to be > > fitted > > > with HV back mounts (mine does...). The new PhaseOne IQ2XX models are > > CMOS. > > > The IQ260 is a 6micron pixel vs the Imacon 5.3micron pixel (10% > reduction > > > in light capturing ability). The IQ260 is true 4x5; not quite 6x6 but a > > > much reduced crop factor. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.phaseone.com/en/Camera-Systems/IQ2-Series/IQ2-Specifications.aspx > > > > > > And I would suggest you read some about actual user experiences with > CMOS > > > MFDBs. What is realistic ISO (not the marketing dept.). How do you > > > calibrate the camera to the back to ensure that what you see in the > > > viewfinder as in focus really is? Of course sharpness may not really > > matter > > > with handheld Hassy shooting (previously mentioned slap). What is the > max > > > exposure time (12min Imacon, 1hr Phase) for those long, hand held > shots! > > > ;-) > > > > > > Definitely try before you buy! You have had MFDB 4x5 for the Hassy out > > > there for years. Yes CMOS is great, but is it in MF? I think the jury > may > > > still be out on that one... > > > Looking forward to seeing your results!!! :-) > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > > > rabinergroup.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I've shot all kinds of events and weddings with my Hasselblad with > > stuff > > > > going as fast breaking and tense as the war in El Salvador or any > > street > > > > riot.. Like about 80 of them. I did another 80 before that with > > Nikons. > > > > The shots I've gotten with square format chest held are just as > > > spontaneous > > > > grabbers as my eye level slrs. Which is part of the reason I switched > > to > > > > medium format for that stuff. > > > > I think the work just out of Vivian Maier reminds us what is possible > > > with > > > > chest held medium format shooting. Dianne Arbus before her. And > others. > > > > Guys > > > > even! > > > > They don't care you are shooting. You can get everything. > > > > > > > > But in the old days of film our Hassy' s and Rolleis were not stuck > > with > > > > medium speed film in them. while the Nikon and Leica guys got theirs > > with > > > > 400 or 1600 film stuck in them. if that was the case there's have > been > > a > > > > lot > > > > less work done with the larger format cameras. > > > > That WAS the case here with digital. > > > > Till this year. And today for my trusty 500c. And ELM. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/21/14 9:18 PM, "George Lottermoser" <george.imagist at > > > > icloud.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think not but you're welcome to have a go at it ;~) > > > > > > > > > > Having shot Hasselblads for 5 decades with films up to 3200 ASA; > > > > > we both know that 3.5 whatever on the 500c will not shoot "just > like > > > > I've been > > > > > shooting with my D700." > > > > > > > > > > Just as handling the Leica S2 or S does not equate to handling a > > Nikon > > > or > > > > > Canon DSLR: > > > > > however alike they may appear next to each other on a fine walnut > > desk. > > > > > > > > > > Physics and optical science will get in the way of those fantasies. > > > > > Just as they did in the days of film. > > > > > > > > > > And your 100 mm will behave more like a 170 mm. > > > > > That mirror slap will continue to wage it's war on stillness. > > > > > > > > > > a note off the iPad, George > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > > > > > rabinergroup.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Well those are not CMOS which are the big news for potential > > digital > > > > medium > > > > >> format users as previously we had severe very low iso limitations > > > > making any > > > > >> of our digital medium format options not all around shooters but > > > catalog > > > > >> shooters with tripods and lights. Now I can take my 500c out with > my > > > > 100mm > > > > >> f3.5 CFi Planar T* or my 50mm and shoot just like I've been > > shooting > > > > with > > > > >> my D700. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mark William Rabiner > > > > Photographer > > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Bob Adler > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > Bob Adler > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto