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Subject: [Leica] Mikado, Señoritas, vocabulary, and respect
From: jplaurel at gmail.com (Jim Laurel)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:17:35 -0700
References: <53CC70C1.7030308@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> <001501cfa514$276eb750$764c25f0$@ca>

Well, now I?ve seen everything. If the collective sensibility on the LUG is 
now such that the term ?se?oritas? is considered derogatory or 
disrespectful, then it is no longer the place for me. Unbelievable.

?Jim Laurel


On Jul 21, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Thank you Brian!
> 
> cheers,
> ted
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of
> Brian Reid
> Sent: July-20-14 6:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: [Leica] Mikado, Se?oritas, vocabulary, and respect
> 
> It is important to treat everyone with respect. Always.
> 
> If you believe that some member of the Lug is using language that is 
> disrespectful or demeaning, then say so in a private message to that 
> person. Cultures vary widely, language varies widely, but your opinion 
> counts.
> 
> The word "se?orita" is complex because it has such different connotation 
> and context in Spain and Portugal than in countries where it is a 
> borrowed word. When Lluis uses the word "se?orita" it carries very 
> different connotation than if I were to use it.
> 
> What I don't want is wide-open unhappy discussion of highly culturalized 
> issues on the LUG. If you want a pissing match, there's plenty of space 
> for that over on the LUG Forum. If you want to tell someone that you 
> think he or she is being sexist or racist or culturalist, then say so 
> privately. And you stand to lose nothing by saying it politely.
> 
> So let's stop arguing about these impossible issues. An let's all try to 
> be respectful as we each understand what that means.
> 
> Brian Reid
> LUG Saloon Keeper
> 
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