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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Protesting "The Mikado"
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 05:19:57 -0400

The issue is not how WE think about it but what the Asian people want.
If Asian people in what appears to be as in some kind of consensus are
giving the show it a thumbs down than its a play which is more that dated it
should probably not be done.  I'm wondering how many if any were in the
audience.
Flower Drum Song we all thought was a great show but we started to figure it
out earlier on realize  is was more than just benignly dated and its really
no longer done any more. I just checked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Drum_Song
I still have my LP somewhere. Its about worn out. I can sing the whole show
for you by heart every verse I'm pretty sure. But would be embarrassed to do
it within earshot of an Asian friend.
" Chop suey, chop suey!
Good and bad, intelligent, mad, and screwy." that was  me singing.
I'm going to have to stare at a whirling black cube.
As much as I hate to say or think it the same might happen with "The Mikado"
which I have also loved for decades and have recently seen in a slick
production in Portland OR. And have often sung along to my CD's of it I have
two different versions of much of it. And pretty  much have all the lyrics
memorized.
"IF  YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO WE AAARE" that was me singing just now. And is as
far as I'm going to go.
We just don't get to define other peoples identity issues. Only our own. I
should speak for myself. We might decide tomorrow that "white people" is
offensive to our ears and we want to be called the "evil beige people". I'm
sure it would catch on with no controversy.

About decade or so ago black people decided in a kind of consensus that they
didn't what to be called black people any more.  The wanted to go with the
term "African Americans" Lots of white people had big opinions about it on
tv news shows  but in the end everyone knew it was just now up to us. It was
up to them.  Turns out the term is still used but way less often. Whoopi
Goldberg said she was not going to change. Nobody wants to mess with her.
That could be it.


On 7/19/14 4:42 AM, "Peter A. Klein" <pklein at threshinc.com> wrote:

> This pair was protesting and handing out leaflets in front of the
> Seattle Gilbert and Sullivan Society's production of "The Mikado," which
> they regard as "Yellowface" and racist. I accepted their leaflets, but
> when I took out my camera, they concealed their faces.
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at N04/14689190055/>
> 
> On Monday, a Seattle Times opinion page editor slammed the production,
> which she hadn't seen. This was followed by two radio interviews in
> which she repeated her charges of "Yellowface" and racism. An Internet
> flamefest followed, including calls for a boycott and shutting down the
> show. There were fears that the performance would be disrupted, but that
> didn't happen Friday night, and only these two showed up.
> 
> If you're interested in reading more about what's going on, Google these
> words: seattle mikado gilbert sullivan.  You'll find all the relevant
> stuff on the first two pages.
> 
> Full disclosure:  Yours truly is not unbiased. I love Gilbert and
> Sullivan, I love "The Mikado," and I played bassoon in the company back
> in the 1980s.  If this were a realistic play with Asian characters being
> played by whites and/or mugging offensive stereotypes, I would be
> sympathetic to the concerns. But that's not what "The Mikado" is. It's
> Brits (or Americans) playing Brits playing dress-up, but mostly acting
> like caricatures of upper-class Brits of 130 years ago.  Nobody wears
> Asian-style makeup, except for Katisha (the fearsome contralto
> character), who is made-up Kabuki-style. The G&S Society has a tradition
> of color-blind casting. No Asian-Americans auditioned for this show,
> there are 38 Caucasians and 2 Hispanics on stage. There are several
> Asian-Americans on the stage crew, one in the orchestra pit (a friend of
> mine), and one on the society's Board of Trustees.
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
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