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Subject: [Leica] Is it just me, or are these new Leica lenses a huge step up?
From: ric at cartersxrd.net (RicCarter)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:02:18 -0400
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never was bothered by the 35/1.2 on an M8
about half of these galleries are with the combo

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On Mar 13, 2014, at 5:57 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:

> My 35/1.4 Summilux pre-asph lens works great on my M8.  Have not noticed 
> any focus shift.
> 
> Gene
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:54:31 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Is it just me, or are these new Leica lenses a huge 
> step up?
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I don't have the CV 1.2/35mm anymore. My main lens on the M8 is the 
> 2.5/35mm Leica, and I have not noticed any focus shift with it. But as I 
> said, maybe I am just not looking for it. I don't doubt that the 
> phenomenon exist; I am just saying that it does not seem to be relevant 
> for the kind of photography I do.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> 
> YNWA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Peter Klein wrote:
> 
>> Nathan: All lenses have focus shift, but some more than others. The 
>> original 35/1.4 ASPH without the floating elements is one, and it is my 
>> principal lens on my M8. At f/1.4 and f/2, the RF is accurate. At 
>> f/2.8-5.6, the actual point of focus is a bit behind where the RF says it 
>> is. At f/8 and smaller, the DOF covers things. I confirmed this with 
>> testing, but it was pretty apparent without testing. So if I want to 
>> shoot it at f/2.8-5.6, I focus a little closer than I actually want. It 
>> bothers me to have to do it, but the lens is so good otherwise that I put 
>> up with it.
>> 
>> IIRC, you are using the Voigtlander 35/1.2 on your M8. That lens handles 
>> focus shift in a very sneaky way. As you stop down, the actual focus 
>> point oscillates back and forth around the point the RF is focused on, 
>> but only very slightly. You can see it if you pixel peep, but not in real 
>> life.  When I first tested my 35/1.2 on the M8, I did pixel peep, and I 
>> couldn't believe my eyes. I repeated the tests, same results. So I asked 
>> Erwin Puts about it. He confirmed my observations. Erwin said that what 
>> the Cosina designers did is a less expensive way of minimizing focus 
>> shift, but that Leica would never do it that way, because there are some 
>> other optical drawbacks to it (I think involving contrast).
>> 
>> So for all practical purposes, your normal M8 lens doesn't have focus 
>> shift. So you don't notice it.   :-)
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I have never seen any focus shift on my M8 with any of my lenses. 
>>> Perhaps I
>>> don't know what to look for. Heck, I just take pictures.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>> 
>>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
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