Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/03/07

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: [Leica] IMG: A sports pic question for Ted
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 19:46:42 -0800
References: <8D1086E8744F945-12D4-17BDF@webmail-d281.sysops.aol.com> <E26D321B93A14A9E916D9AF1B2C4871F@Family>

Douglas Barry SHOWED:
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: A sports pic question for Ted


> Having spent many aeons cheering on my spawn with a ball at their feet, 
> here's one I took of my youngest in '08 with a digital while clearing a 
> bit of trouble with his head.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/50543475 at 
> N00/2309151754/in/photostream/<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

 Hi Douglas,

A solid action shot to say the least.  A couple of thoughts?

1/ I'd have cropped the superfluous players on the left. Then blown the shot 
up tight of the small group with your son and ball. Because your son, 
whether he was or not. He's  the player is the center of the action! ERGO : 
Blow that part of the frame BIG!

The players on the left are waste of space and have nothing to do with the 
"cool action scene with your son's group.!"

A Sport's Editor from long long ago who had a huge pair of scissors on his 
desk and if you gave him that shot as we see it here? Right there in your 
face chopped it all up tight with one comment..... "Your a hell of a good 
photog! But when the hell are you going to learn to crop the crap out?" snip 
snip snip. :-)
And before that we would be thinking "Great I'll have 4 column sports 
picture in the Sports page!"
Nope two column!!

2/ Not knowing what lenses you had to use? But I'd say yer probably a couple 
hundred mm's short in length to have a tighter image. Most soccer and field 
sports my main long  lens was a 300 Nikkor f2.8 adapted by a Leica 
technician to fit one of my Leica SLR's. That was before the Leica 280mm 
came out. Then I bought it, the 1.4 adapter and the 2X adapter. Had Leica 
change the LEICA mount back to Nikon  and sold if for $500 more than I paid 
for it! :-)

Then if you required really long? You put the two adapters on and it gave 
you an 800mm f8.0! Sharp as all get out even if it was f8.0 wide open WITH 
ADAPTERS! Fixed that easy and bumped up the ASA and away you went ! Besides 
there was always another SLR Leica with motor drive AND wide lens in case 
the play came right in on top of you and you just clicked away with it! :-) 
Oh the long glass?

In the blink of an eye it was swinging on the empty shoulder! :-)

Oh they were the days of shooting sports. My gear was three Leica SLRs motor 
equipped, and a bunch of lenses from super wides to long. Had a 400mm 2.8 
for sometime toward the last few years. Then sold it.

I hope this kinda answers the question? ;-)

cheers,
ted


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <lrzeitlin at aol.com>
> To: <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:48 PM
> Subject: [Leica] IMG: A sports pic question for Ted
>
>
>> I was a much better sports photographer back in the good old film days 
>> than I am now. I had trained my trigger finger to click the shutter of my 
>> Leica the instant before I saw something interesting happen and chances 
>> are I got the picture. I was a specialist in soccer. I had both played 
>> and coached the game and could anticipate the action. Local newspapers 
>> called me to cover regional and state championships.
>>
>>
>> Looking back through my old files I had a lot of great shots. Here is one 
>> published in a newspaper almost 50 years ago. Note the long hair and the 
>> "traditional" soccer ball. The picture was taken on a cloudy, overcast 
>> day.? Pushed Tri-X film was necessary to get a high shutter speed .The 
>> grain is simply from a big blowup. The picture looks like crap on a 
>> computer but looked OK when printed in a newspaper using a halftone 
>> screen.
>>
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Soccer_001.jpg.html
>>
>>
>> But now with my digital cameras I press the shutter button and wait and 
>> wait and wait for the picture to be taken. Sure, they are in focus and 
>> exposed correctly and the ASA 6000 sensor means that I don't have to push 
>> film speeds but getting the critical moment is a matter of guesswork. By 
>> actual test my DSLR takes nearly half a second in auto mode from button 
>> press to shutter click. A big league baseball would travel from the 
>> pitcher's hand to the catcher's glove in that time. Even by using all the 
>> tricks, manual settings, prefocus, etc. I can't reduct the latency to 
>> much less than .25 seconds. My reaction time with a film Leica is half 
>> that.
>>
>>
>> Motor drives and sequence photography anyone? It seem like cheating to 
>> me.
>>
>>
>> Ted, what does your son do?
>>
>>
>> Larry Z
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information 


---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus 
protection is active.
http://www.avast.com



Replies: Reply from imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry) ([Leica] IMG: A sports pic question for Ted)
In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at aol.com (lrzeitlin at aol.com) ([Leica] IMG: A sports pic question for Ted)
Message from imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry) ([Leica] IMG: A sports pic question for Ted)