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Subject: [Leica] Lluis' B&W tonality
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 14:06:18 +1000
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Bob I see Barcelona as your perfect retirement present trip for the Adlers
;-)
Since I've been lucky enough to spend some days with my good friend Lluis
over some years, I think I can comment further on his 'magic'
I have never met anyone who works so hard and consistently at his craft.
That's nine tenths of his magic  The rest hardly matters.


Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 23 February 2014 11:58, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know...
> *sigh*
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Bob the very best way to absorb the instruction from Don Lluis is to walk
> > and shoot with him all day in a superb city environment (with intervals
> for
> > delicious Catalan food) then sit over a beer in front of the computer
> with
> > Lluis. You need to go to Barcelona!
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 21 February 2014 17:25, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Lluis. An excellent tutorial that gives a starting point to
> us
> > > novices who wish to develop our own processes.
> > > You are very generous.
> > > Best,
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Lluis Ripoll <
> > > lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Susan, Gerry, Bob, Larry and others ... I really think I
> > don't
> > > deserve such mentions, I've saw after years the B&W of many of many of
> > you
> > > are sharing with us, everyone has his own style and I don't know if I
> can
> > > explain my workflow as a certain rule ... , IMHO is a question of the
> > > personal preferences. Even so I can explain why I work.
> > > >
> > > > I normally work in manual mode and in digital I prefer a little under
> > > exposure than over exposure. Usually I prefer use old lenses, IMHO they
> > > give more medium tones and less crispy images to work. When I process
> the
> > > DNG I have certain "own" rules, I try to avoid or at least minimize the
> > > extreme tones of the Dynamic Range, Absolute Black (Zone 0) and
> absolute
> > > white (Zone X), usually I start marking the white and the black points,
> > > after I do a first arrangement using the extended Dynamic range that
> > offer
> > > Capture One (medium tones for shadow and lights), after this I work
> with
> > > the curve to obtain the contrast I want, finally I work on the
> classical
> > > controls of Exposure, Brilliance and Contrast an if it is necessary I
> > > correct the previous values I've do. I edit the image in Photoshop and
> I
> > > click in to the Automatic levels, generally I accept what PS does. If
> the
> > > image is too flat I try to improve it with Silver Efex Pro.
> > > >
> > > > IMHO Capture One is a great tool for work the B&W, it has different
> B&W
> > > presets, and I have also build mines. The same thing with Silver Efex
> > Pro,
> > > I've never use the standard presets, I've build some own presets, but
> > > rarely they work for a new picture, I have to modify different things.
> > > >
> > > > When I work I always take care of the histogram, and I try to cover
> all
> > > the range. Silver Efex Pro offer the histogram and the 10 zones, this
> is
> > > useful for me, I can better correct extreme Zones 0 and 10.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if this can be interesting for you, I think is nothing
> > new,
> > > last Summer our friend Geoff was with me looking my workflow, I work by
> > my
> > > instinct and I think difficult made, as you say, a tutorial, this
> sounds
> > > for me too pretentious...
> > > >
> > > > I hope have answered your question ...
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much!
> > > > Lluis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> El 19/02/2014, a las 16:49, lrzeitlin at aol.com escribi?:
> > > >>
> > > >> Lluis,
> > > >> I am always impressed by the tonal quality you manage to achieve in
> > > your B&W pictures. Especially when viewed on the new high resolution
> > screen
> > > of my Macbook Pro. We may differ on matters of composition and subject
> > > selection but your B&W images are far superior to the bulk of those
> shown
> > > on the LUG. I mean no disrespect to other photographers but your
> pictures
> > > are in a class by themselves.? It can't all be the Leica Monocrom.? The
> > > results are just as good with every camera you use, even old film
> > cameras.
> > > The big question is how do you do it??
> > > >> Could you describe your workflow from shutter click to posting on
> the
> > > internet as a tutorial for less adept photographers. I would like to be
> > > able to get your results in B&W images.
> > > >> Larry Z
> > > >>
> > > >>
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>
> --
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>
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Replies: Reply from rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler) ([Leica] Lluis' B&W tonality)
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