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Subject: [Leica] OT - Sony Alpha 7R
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:09:47 +0000
References: <CF2BB9E0.185C5%mark@rabinergroup.com> <5321466E-C881-40C2-AB08-4C66A30B3654@gmail.com> <CAFfkXxsWcCic2qhJegHpoerEnFh1ZB7zm6_47qHdVhUkn9hGww@mail.gmail.com> <2B9DDEAB-D9F4-4E7F-B0CD-663F5090D7D7@gmail.com> <DADBB027-1FD6-4C54-9563-64CBFB5C4E62@mac.com>, <CAFfkXxt10+vX_QO3g88UeCCEUvCx9G5T5wTUZYD=_=XFHN1kCA@mail.gmail.com>

The M(240) is much quieter than the M9

john
________________________________________


I don't have a 240, to compare. 

<snip>

It is substantially louder than my M9, 

By the way, welcome back, Jim.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Lucien <lucien_vd at mac.com> wrote:

> And it is noisy.
>
> Much more noisy than the M240.
>
> Lucien
>
> > On 20 f?vr. 2014, at 19:39, Jim Gmail <jplaurel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Aren't there a lot if reported issues with adapted lenses? The Leica M
> primes, at least, seem to perform much better on the M240 than on the A7.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 20, 2014, at 15:38, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Except that it will fit nearly every 35mm lens in the book, LTM, M, and
> R,
> >> as well as the native ones.  and the 35 2.8 T* is not too big, larger
> than
> >> a sumicron.
> >>
> >> The 55 and 35 may not be crazy interesting, but taken as a package with
> the
> >> camera, they are pretty sweet.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jim Laurel (gmail) <jplaurel at 
> >> gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wish someone could explain all the hype around the Sony A7 twins.
> Ok, I
> >>> get that it's a full frame mirrorless and that puts it in an exclusive
> club
> >>> with just two members, alongside the M240. I understand everyone's
> desire
> >>> for a full frame platform for mounting legacy glass. But as a system
> in its
> >>> own right, I don't get it. Sure, the body is small, but so what? Lenses
> >>> that produce an image circle suitable for a full frame sensor are
> going to
> >>> be just as large as, say, the Canon system. At the end of the day,
> your bag
> >>> is going to weigh nearly as much as any other full frame system. You're
> >>> only saving a ounces on the body. And that assumes that there are
> >>> interesting native mount lenses for the A7, which there aren't...not
> yet,
> >>> anyway...
> >>>
> >>> --Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I came into the photo game after they put in the click stops so I
> hadn't
> >>>> done much shooting at f 2.7 or f9 or 101st of a second.!
> >>>> Things were pretty much rounded off for me! I'd have a had a hard time
> >>>> getting my head around  f9. Did it exist?
> >>>> When the A & P  settings got put in camera bodies  in I think the
> early
> >>> 80's
> >>>> I did use these and any odd settings as that's what the A settings on
> my
> >>>> cameras gave me.  Though you could not see it in any metadata you
> could
> >>>> remember they were there!!
> >>>> In a way of thinking it was an added level of precision which I
> thought
> >>> was
> >>>> pretty cool! Of a sky needed 101st of a second that's what it got!
> >>>> Not some measly 100th just so the thing would go click!
> >>>>
> >>>> Is a one percent level of precision something I should NOT be worried
> >>> about?
> >>>> Sure! But I'll take it if they're handing it to me.  And all those 1%
> >>> levels
> >>>> of precision on the myriad areas of camerawork add up I should think.
> >>>>
> >>>> The major thing about auto settings is really about loosing less
> shots as
> >>>> you've got your eye more on the subject than needle or led's or
> controll
> >>>> knobs. Your not constantly trying to maintain your exposure you just
> know
> >>>> its there!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>> Photographer
> >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Sonny
> >> http://sonc.com/look/
> >> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> >> 1714
> >> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
> >>
> >> USA
> >>
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--
Regards,

Sonny
http://sonc.com/look/
Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA

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