Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/02/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Steve, So hard to do this right by email. Thanks for your patience with my difficulties in trying to explain. I just use the old rangefinder on the M when taking portraits (of Leo mostly!). Where the iris meets the white of the eye I try to get in focus, usually by getting close and moving my head slightly and pushing the button when I see an expression. So it's not "focus peaking" of course through the Optical View Finder (OVF); just normal M focusing. I think I have a better chance that way than with the EVF as I tried to explain earlier. With the EVF I find I need to magnify to 5X, which only shows the very center of the image; so I have to put the eye in the center. Once I see the focus peaking I depress the shutter half way which takes me back to a full frame view in the EVF. Then I have to reframe (because I've put the eyes in the center to focus peak with the EVF and rarely is that what I want in the exposure). Then I press the shutter and there is a shutter lag as, unlike the Fuji and Sony, the shutter has to first close and then fire. So with all that time needed with the EVF, I find the OVF to be better FOR ME... As I said before, with landscapes, the EVF is wonderful; like in your image of the glasses!! Hope I'm making more sense? Thanks, Bob Sent from my iPad > On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Three issues I'm having with the Leica M + EVF and my Nocti: >> >> 1. I have to magnify the EVF image to see the eyes get "peaked" >> 2. Once peaked, reframing after depressing the shutter halfway is needed >> as the M only magnifies the center of the image. >> 3. There is a delay between depressing the shutter and the sensor being >> exposed with the EVF (be design unfortunately!). >> >> So I find it hard to use the EVF on people. Easier to just move my head >> forward and backward with the optical range finder and get nearly instant >> exposure when pressing the shutter button. Hit rate seems better for me. >> Non moving objects are just the opposite. >> Just my experience. > > > let me see if I can speak to this now?been thinking about it on & off for > hours. > > can you see ?the eyes get peaked? without the EVF, if so how ? > > if this is a necessity, how do you do it without the EVF? > > > s > > > > > >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Which is a really interesting topic for me because all else being equal >>>> I >>>> find that the RF is much more precise. >>> >>> >>> more precise than what Geoff ? >>> have you given an adequate trial to focus peaking? >>> >>>> That is to say that in my experience >>> >>> what is your experience with focus peaking? >>> >>>> there is a range of acceptable focus peaking effect as you move the >>>> focus >>>> ring (not dissimilar to a plain ground glass in effect?) but only one >>>> moment when the RF is truly aligned.However that is not taking into >>>> account >>>> focus shift which the EVF negates for you. >>> >>> so you 1. see better what you are focussing on 2. have a separate >>> confirmation of focus 3. avoid focus shift (a biggie when you are wide >>> open) 4. benefit from focus peaking for long lenses as you mention below >>> >>>> Of course the RF is not very >>>> good at all if you want to use R lenses or long teles, or macros or >>>> third >>>> party adapted lenses! >>> >>> >>> so what's not to like? >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Geoff >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 11 February 2014 08:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:17 PM, rgacpa at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Whoop! >>>>>> Did you try it with just the range finder? >>>>> >>>>> MUCH less certain >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> s >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at >>>>>>> gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at >>>>>>>> gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> finally, at f1... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW+2014/glasses.jpg.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> focussed near lateral RIGHT rim, on RIGHT earpiece, 1/2 inch from >>>>>>>> the >>>>> rim... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leica M 240 with Noctilux at f1, RAW file done with focus peaking, >>>>> using Olympus VF-2.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> many thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information