Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/01/11

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Subject: [Leica] The Real Cost of Leicas
From: jshulman at judgecrater.com (Jim Shulman)
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 21:42:28 -0500
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A little blow-dry on the curtains and it's just fine <g>.  I've even shot
in a-la-mode with that camera (when a frozen yogurt collapses on the top
plate and lens).

>From period ads I've seen (and from the Montgomery Ward photography
catalogs), the M3/collapsible Summicron combination was about $425-450, or
roughly $3800 in current money--which means the M9/50mm Summicron combo of
2014 is about four times as expensive as the '50s counterpart.

If the person wanted a new Leica, but couldn't swing the M3's price, there
was always the IIIf/DA or IIIg, at about 60% of the M3's price.

Also consider that in those days it was four DM to the dollar, which made
a lot of high quality German products attractive buys in the US.

Back to negative scanning.

Jim

PS.  Personally, if I only shot with a 50mm lens I'd have purchased a new
Kodak Retina IIIc, with combined fv/rf, f2 Schneider lens, lever advance,
built-in meter and folding front for about $150-175 brand new.  I've owned
a number of these since the 1970s, and they are great performers that are
built like tanks.



-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Ken Carney
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:02 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] The Real Cost of Leicas

That is one tough M3.  OK, an M today costs about $7,000.  The M3 was
introduced in 1954.  $7,000 today equals $807 in 1954, based on the CPI.
I think the M3 with a 50 Summicron sold new for about $500 in 1954.  What
does it mean?  I don't know.  As Doug pointed out comparing film to
digital is like comparing watermelons to adverbs.

Ken

On 1/11/2014 6:02 PM, Jim Shulman wrote:
> Why not just grab an affordable Leica and shoot pictures?  I did
> today--shot a roll of Neopan 400 with my M3/Summilux 50, which is drying
> now in the shower stall.  If we had as many picture posts as we do
> discussions on Leica prices and market behavior, the LUG gallery would
> overload a server.
>
> Jim Shulman
> Wynnewood, PA
> Whose subjects show more spherical aberrations than his lenses.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of
> Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:30 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Real Cost of Leicas
>
> Exactly how I feel about it. As it happens to be true as the nose on
your
> face.
>
>
> On 1/11/14 12:56 PM, "Paul Roark" <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   For business, it's really
>> a question of return on investment.  In that respect, digital has
>> increased the cost of my "hobby," but it has lowered my "cost of
>> business" (due to huge productivity gains).
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>
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