Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/11

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Subject: [Leica] Mini Me M release
From: scottgregory at mac.com (Scott Gregory)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:49:28 -0400
References: <CDDCE4F9.B539%mark@rabinergroup.com> <A2788677-6FE9-4BA6-9C9F-A0F65B3EC2F1@mac.com>

Chris I think a lot of folks were hoping for a body with interchangeable 
lenses similar to an xe1 or x pro 1. Not everyone can afford the $7 and 
$8000.00 high end. 


Scott


On 2013-06-11, at 2:36 PM, chris williams <zoeica at mac.com> wrote:

> Oh just go create images!
> 
> Leica has a M-E,Monochrom & M 240. Fucking hell that's a pretty good line 
> up. Who cares about the rest?
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Williams
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> 
> 
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> Steve Huff mentioned in the first thing that he'd rather go out and get a
>> Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1 full frame for roughly the same bucks.
>> I certainly agree and I'm sure that opinion will end up being the
>> consensus.
>> Tests will show the pix coming out of the Sony wiping the smaller format 
>> but
>> same priced Leica right out of the water.
>> 
>> Also the issue is which camera LOOKS more elegant
>> And I think its a tossup.
>> The Zeiss in front of the Sony is not so compact but is overwhelmingly
>> GORGEOUS. As is its inner design. Making us feel as we could take a great
>> shot of ANYTHING. with the images would prove us right.
>> The glass in front of the Leicas is certainly not going to appeal to
>> connsiouers of any ilk.  And the people with the big bucks are gonna wanna
>> know what the people in the know in the photo department think before the
>> pick out their latest classy photo neckwear. A lot of them.
>> 
>> So we're going to have the company which makes the walkmans winning the
>> compact camera war with the company which makes the best cameras. Leica.
>> A huge thing for Sony. A huge not so good thing for Leica.
>> 
>> Shooting with the Sony would be a far more exciting and rewarding
>> experience.
>> And this kind of thing should belong to Leica.
>> Its like coming in second on purpose and having your pretending you won
>> speech all written out ahead of time.
>> "don't look at the camera behind the mirror"
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/11/13 9:41 AM, "Ric Carter" <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> sounds like a replay of my Leica Z2X
>>> 
>>> which feels decidely unLeica
>>> 
>>> ric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mark I totally agree. What are they thinking?
>>>> 
>>>> A total let down.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013-06-11, at 9:30 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Putting a zoom on an X does not as Leica specifically stated put it 
>>>>> between
>>>>> an M and an X. 
>>>>> it put it between an X and a  Panasonic Lumix.
>>>>> Super bad thinking on the part of Leica.
>>>>> Not a step up from an X but two steps down.
>>>>> The stock holders will be happy about the lowering of the Brand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whenever the classic point and shoots, Contax T, Nikon T, Ricoh GR, 
>>>>> Minox 35
>>>>> finally sold out with a zoom model which of course brought in the big 
>>>>> bucks
>>>>> from the idiot crowds they were widely ignored and reviled by the
>>>>> connoisseurs; it was not good news.
>>>>> A fast unobtrusive and elegant camera became slow and bulgy.
>>>>> It was "time to make some money and pay some bills" news.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Instead of a drum roll Leica needed to sneak this out with a whisper. 
>>>>> While
>>>>> everyone was on vacation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... A few of the famous film super compact 35's never came out in zoom
>>>>> versions. The Rollei 35 was one and I think also the Minox 35.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/11/13 9:01 AM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very sad. 
>>>>>> They said it would be an M.
>>>>>> but instead its an idiot X.
>>>>>> for people with more money than sense.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They will look like they are shooting with a real Leica.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Normally a thing rushed out like this I'd not believe for a second 
>>>>>> but the
>>>>>> fact that he's giving the UPC code of the camera as 799429184308 and 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> UPC
>>>>>> code and price  and code of all the accessories it does sound like a 
>>>>>> non
>>>>>> rumor. But a leak. And I'm fond of leaks now having seen the Wikileaks
>>>>>> movie.
>>>>>> Or they are good at making up  lists UPC numbers.
>>>>>> I'm crossing my figures its a sick joke or a bad dream.
>>>>>> 
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