[Leica] Fuji choice and Leica

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Thanks for your very reasoned review.  Those are exactly the reasons I
would hesitate buying the Fuji just for my Leica M lenses.  I HATE EVF and
shutter delay!  I think I will wait.  Leica seems to be working on any
problems and I have every confidence that they will fix them before they
resume sending out cameras.  I'd love to have the M240 tomorrow but I'm
willing to wait for perfection.

Tina


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> wrote:

> I looked seriously at the X-Pro1 some time ago.  I wanted a replacement
> for my aging Panny G1, which was my "other than Leica" camera.
>
> I liked the feel of the X-Pro1, the discrete control buttons, the image
> quality, especially at high ISO (as seen in other's pictures). I was put
> off by the autofocus slowness and problems with RAW support (now somewhat
> mitigated by firmware and RAW processor upgrades), and the lack of diopter
> adjustment in the viewfinder. Eventually micro 4/3 won out. I already had a
> couple of lenses, so the cost to upgrade to the Olympus OM-D E-M5 was less.
> The high-ISO image quality was slightly less than the Fuji, but quite
> usable. (I've since grown to love the B&W conversions I'm getting out of
> the OM-D at ISO 1600).
>
> My one real disappointment with the OM-D is that it is not a decisive
> moment camera for fleeting expressions. (I suspect the same holds for the
> XE-1) There is a bit of delay between what happens in life and when you see
> it in the viewfinder. And, there is a little-known issue in micro-4/3
> called Shutter Shock, which prevents you from getting the sharpest pictures
> at the most-used shutter speeds unless you program in an additional 1/8
> second shutter delay.
>
> Viewfinder delay is the Achilles heel of all EVF cameras. Add the delay in
> focusing a manual focus lens, and you get a combination that is fine for
> posed and static subjects, but not for action.
>
> I've done much playing around with manual lenses (both Leica and OM) on
> DSLR and micro-4/3 bodies. For telephoto and macro, it's fine. For the
> theater or classical music concerts where the performers don't move around
> much, it's quite usable.  I did well with a 90 Summicron on the OM-D,
> acting as a 180mm f/2.  But the native lenses are just much more convenient
> and faster to work with. For anything that moves, you want the native
> lenses. Not to mention that they were designed with the camera format and
> sensor in mind.  And that Leica wide-angle lenses on anything but a Leica
> are always going to be a problem due to the steep angle of light hitting
> the sensor.
>
> This is why, if I were to get a Fuji, I would get the X-Pro1. It gives you
> EVF when you need precise framing and can deal with slow manual focus, but
> an optical viewfinder when you are dealing with anything moving. And I
> would certainly get the Fuji lenses, just as I got the micro-4/3 primes.
>
> B&W conversions from the OM-D:
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/**24844563 at 
> N04/8739819257/**lightbox<http://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at 
> N04/8739819257/lightbox>>,
> and the next 3 "Older"
> and this one: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/**24844563 at N04/8656429757/**
> lightbox <http://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at 
> N04/8656429757/lightbox>>
>
> 90 Summicron on OM-D in a concert hall:
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/**24844563 at 
> N04/8590916253/**lightbox/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at 
> N04/8590916253/lightbox/>>
> and then next 2 "Older"
>
> The best I could do with my cousins' relatively slow tennis game. And this
> the best of about 30 tries, with the shutter shock delay turned *off*, and
> keeping my non-viewfinder eye open to watch the ball, and and hitting the
> shutter when the ball crossed the net. Using the EVF, the ball was almost
> never even in the frame.
> <http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/pklein/family/gladys80/**
> P4150047.jpg.html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/family/gladys80/P4150047.jpg.html>
> >
>
> I suspect you'd get similar results from an EVF-only XE-1.
>
> --Peter
>
>
> > Steve sorry if you have posted this before and I missed the information.
> I'm
> > trying to decide between the x pro 1 to use with their 18-55 and one
> other
> > lens for now, maybe the 35 1.4.
> > As well as as my Leica glass with the Fuji adapter.
> > Or the XE-1.
> > I'm having a hard time making a decision for some reason on which body.
> Have
> > you both or have you used both that you can provide your thoughts?
> > Thanks very much,
> > And Nathan what model did you order?
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott
>
> >
>
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