Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark wrote: "Stopping down two " It now all makes sense to me Mark thank you - being obsessive with "5.6 and be there" looked ridiculous for 2/3, (micro) 4/3, MF, and larger formats etc. Also with such a collection of lenses ranging from the Nocti 0.95 or Telyt 560mm f5.6 to http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5360.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0&_nkw=nikon+5.6&_sacat=0&_from=R40 Especially when if you're aiming at DoF which, by essence, is highly sensor size AND FL sensitive. Fortunately, auto ISO is on our side ;-) Keep stopping down two :-) Amiti?s Philippe Lew; I see from your bite at zewms that you still haven't passed your primes; keep clicking ;-) ======================================== Message du : 19/05/2013 22:39 De : "Mark Rabiner " <mark at rabinergroup.com> A : "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Copie ? : Sujet : Re: [Leica] Mark's 5.6 and be there I don't know what percentage of the time I shoot f 5.6 I shoot f 8 a lot too. Even at night. Mainly I tend for most shots to stop down as much as I can so I can get as much information in it as I can. But sometimes I do the selective focus thing to isolate a main subject. Maybe a third of the time. But I'm excited by information. Not Bokeh. I like to stop down a couple so if what I think I'm seeing as sharp in my groundless deceives me I still have not missed my focus in the final image. As my first camera with adjustments was a 2.8 (Color Scopar 50mm on a Voigtl?nder) 5.6 was two stops down. Stopping down two has been basic photo advice since day one. Lumiere said to Talbot: stop down two idiot! In the 70's though late 90's in Portland most of my friends were photographers most of them commercial photographers and none of them shot much wide open unless they were in a very dark room or alley with no tripod or flash and had to squeeze out a shot for something editorial like. In other words pretty much never. When joined photo lists a few decades back the topic of the Bokeh on my Zeiss for Hasselblad lenses came up. After figuring out what Bokeh meant I told them I had no idea as I'd never shot a picture with any of them for ten years over f 8. Which was pretty much true. Mainly f 11. I went from studio strobe to Norman 200c battery powered strobe to tripod. Not too many shots hand held with no flash. Which was the case for most photographers I knew. By the way I was told the "Bokeh" on Zeiss for Hasselblad glass a few decades back was "notorious". So I did test it out. Horse crap. On 5/19/13 12:38 AM, "Mark Rabiner" wrote: > I had always heard f 8 and be there for the speed graphic era!?!? > > I know that traditionally 5.6 is the favorite f stop for cinematographers. > The f stop where they feel safe. That is where they know they're going to > get their focus. That is film guys shooting 35mm film stock which gives you > what we think of as half frame. 18x24. But they think of as single frame. > > > On 5/19/13 12:11 AM, "Marshall Hunt" wrote: > >> It is a modification of a motto from the early days of press photography, >> when you needed three hands and big pockets to use a Speed Graphic. >> : >> "f.6" set your Speed Graphic lens at 5.6 so you have some depth of field >> when you estimate the distance. >> >> "and be there" be at the scene of the action; otherwise you can't get a >> fast shot. >> >> >> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:25 AM, wrote: >> >>> Mark repeatedly writes: >>> >>> >>> F 5.6 and be there. >>> >>> >>> >>> What's YOUR rationale for shooting at 5.6? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> If it is about DoF it is completely irrelevant for it also depends on >>> sensor size, but this you know. >>> >>> >>> So what is it please? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> AMiti?s >>> Philippe >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information