Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/05/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The only format I shoot now is 24x36mm. When I shot with my f1 Noctilux I shot with my M6's highest shutter speed, 100oth of a second for most of my shots. I was in f 1000th of a second and be there mode. It was cool when I got to shoot at f1 but it was just not to be always the case. I found the lens to be completely viable at any f stop and able to be normally used like a normal lens as in 50mm.s Obviously you don't spend that kind of money and carry that thing around if you don't plan on using it at f1 much. But when you run into an image in front of you which needs more than a super thin sliver of information you stop down and get more. Its not clear to me if I do land a new M240 if the f1 is doable on it or not. I'm thinking it would be. On 5/19/13 4:57 PM, "Philippe Amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> wrote: > Mark wrote: "Stopping down two " It now all makes sense to me Mark thank > you - being obsessive with "5.6 and be there" looked ridiculous for 2/3, > (micro) 4/3, MF, and larger formats etc. Also with such a collection of > lenses ranging from the Nocti 0.95 or Telyt 560mm f5.6 to > http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5360.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0&_nkw=nikon > +5.6&_sacat=0&_from=R40 Especially when if you're aiming at DoF which, by > essence, is highly sensor size AND FL sensitive. Fortunately, auto ISO is > on our side ;-) Keep stopping down two :-) Amiti?s Philippe Lew; I see > from your bite at zewms that you still haven't passed your primes; keep > clicking ;-) ======================================== Message du : > 19/05/2013 22:39 De : "Mark Rabiner " <mark at rabinergroup.com> A : "Leica Users > Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Copie ? : Sujet : Re: [Leica] Mark's 5.6 and be > there I don't know what percentage of the time I shoot f 5.6 I shoot f 8 a > lot too. Even at night. Mainly I tend for most shots to stop down as much as > I can so I can get as much information in it as I can. But sometimes I do > the selective focus thing to isolate a main subject. Maybe a third of the > time. But I'm excited by information. Not Bokeh. I like to stop down a couple > so if what I think I'm seeing as sharp in my groundless deceives me I still > have not missed my focus in the final image. As my first camera with > adjustments was a 2.8 (Color Scopar 50mm on a Voigtl?nder) 5.6 was two stops > down. Stopping down two has been basic photo advice since day one. Lumiere > said to Talbot: stop down two idiot! In the 70's though late 90's in Portland > most of my friends were photographers most of them commercial photographers > and none of them shot much wide open unless they were in a very dark room or > alley with no tripod or flash and had to squeeze out a shot for something > editorial like. In other words pretty much never. When joined photo lists a > few decades back the topic of the Bokeh on my Zeiss for Hasselblad lenses came > up. After figuring out what Bokeh meant I told them I had no idea as I'd never > shot a picture with any of them for ten years over f 8. Which was pretty much > true. Mainly f 11. I went from studio strobe to Norman 200c battery powered > strobe to tripod. Not too many shots hand held with no flash. Which was the > case for most photographers I knew. By the way I was told the "Bokeh" on Zeiss > for Hasselblad glass a few decades back was "notorious". So I did test it out. > Horse crap. On 5/19/13 12:38 AM, "Mark Rabiner" wrote: > I had always > heard f 8 and be there for the speed graphic era!?!? > > I know that > traditionally 5.6 is the favorite f stop for cinematographers. > The f stop > where they feel safe. That is where they know they're going to > get their > focus. That is film guys shooting 35mm film stock which gives you > what we > think of as half frame. 18x24. But they think of as single frame. > > > On > 5/19/13 12:11 AM, "Marshall Hunt" wrote: > >> It is a modification of a > motto from the early days of press photography, >> when you needed three hands > and big pockets to use a Speed Graphic. >> : >> "f.6" set your Speed Graphic > lens at 5.6 so you have some depth of field >> when you estimate the > distance. >> >> "and be there" be at the scene of the action; otherwise you > can't get a >> fast shot. >> >> >> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:25 AM, > wrote: >> >>> Mark repeatedly writes: >>> >>> >>> F 5.6 and be there. >>> > >>> >>> >>> What's YOUR rationale for shooting at 5.6? >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> If it is about DoF it is completely irrelevant for it also depends on >>> > sensor size, but this you know. >>> >>> >>> So what is it please? >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> AMiti?s >>> Philippe >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- Mark William > Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ ___________ > ____________________________________ Leica Users Group. See > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information _______________________________________________ Leica Users > Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/