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Subject: [Leica] Nothing else for it
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 05:16:21 +0930
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Thanks Jim.  What works, works, and I don't argue with it.

Marty


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
wrote:

> Marty, it is hard to argue with the results that you get with your
> technique.  The portraits are excellent.  I hope they can get your lens
> adjusted for minimum distance.  So what if the lens doesn't quite work at
> infinity.  Not important for this work.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 7:52 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nothing else for it
>
>
>  If you are 1M (39 inches) away from your subject at the film plane, you
>>> are
>>> standing in their personal space.  If you move to 2 feet away, your lens
>>> is
>>> about 18 inches from their face.  Isn't that a bit close for portraiture?
>>>
>>>
>> This is exactly where all my portraits are taken.  Getting inside people's
>> personal space is my method.  It's the only way I've found that I can get
>> the intimacy I want:
>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/freakscene/Rachel/**File0846.jpg.html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Rachel/File0846.jpg.html>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/freakscene/Africa+2009/**
>> Zimbabwe/img555a.jpg.html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Africa+2009/Zimbabwe/img555a.jpg.html>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/freakscene/Portraits/**
>> File0585.jpg.html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Portraits/File0585.jpg.html>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/freakscene/MM/S-jr.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/MM/S-jr.jpg.html>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/freakscene/MM/L1000811-**Edit.jpg.html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/MM/L1000811-Edit.jpg.html>
>>
>> Note: the new incarnation of the 90 Macro Elmar (with the close focus
>>
>>> attachment) focuses to 0.5M.  Technically, there is a solution.
>>>
>>>
>> As I said, the Macro Elmar is too slow for my purposes.
>>
>>
>>  Do you need to work closer or have a more cropped image of your subject?
>>>
>>>
>> I always work inside 1m.  If I want a wider or tighter shot, I change
>> focal
>> length.
>>
>>
>>  Is it possible you are using the wrong focal length to get the image you
>>> desire?  ( 75 instead of a 90 or 135?)
>>>
>>>
>> No, I've tried this and it doesn't work for me, including a recent
>> dalliance with the Leica 135/3.4, which is stunning glass, but I just
>> didn't get anything I liked with it after working with it for a month or
>> so.
>>
>>
>>  Why don't you crop the desired image from the "negative"?
>>>
>>>
>> Because I don't get the shots I like, and which people commission me to
>> take, unless I get in close.
>>
>>
>>  Why is there a "need" to get closer?  Please explain...
>>>
>>>
>> It's what works for me.  I have tried to work with longer lenses further
>> away, but didn't like the look or the results.
>>
>> And none of my subjects has ever said they felt intimidated, except when I
>> tried going completely the other way and did a portrait shoot on the beach
>> near where I work with a 300/2.8 - intimidating, even if I was 5 m away. I
>> guess I am just not very scary.  Kids seem to like me.
>>
>> The Monochrom is pretty much the perfect camera for me, and if my 75
>> Summilux focused accurately under 1 m on that camera it would be my
>> perfect
>> lens.  The 75 Summicron is very good, but I like the extra stop and the
>> softness.  I'll send my Summilux off and then I ought to be set, providing
>> it can be calibrated to focus accurately enough where I want it to focus.
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Marty
>>
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