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Subject: [Leica] Technical detail--why?
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:41:32 +0100
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Thanks Cedric, cardinally blushing here ;-)

I explained why I don't want to hide the exif in an earlier post.
But I never include exif or camera brand or type in the post itself :-)

Amiti?s
Philippe

Le 24 mars 13 ? 23:43, Cedric Agie a ?crit :

> Your'e right Tina. It's as simple as that. Avoiding making the same
> silly mistakes all over again, in the field or in the lab. In the
> beginning when making a good picture almost by chance, I liked to
> remember why and  how I did it. To be honnest that's the way it went
> before I finally studied photography seriously.
>
> Recently someone on this site showed us a wonderfull Cardinal. When I
> saw this razor sharp picture had been taken with a cheap tele, I said
> in myself; bravo, well done.
>
> Regards
>
> Cedric
>
> 2013/3/24 Cedric Agie <cedric.agie at gmail.com>:
>> You don't have to take notes anymore with the Leica M-9. The camera
>> does it for you.
>> There must be a reason.
>> Years ago Leitz made ads saying; "Leitz heist precision". Or the name
>> of Leitz is precision.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Cedric
>>
>> 2013/3/24  <tedgrant at shaw.ca>:
>>> Nathan Wajsman OFFERED:
>>> Subject: [Leica] Technical detail--why?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Someone, I think Cedric, commented on Jean-Michel's pictures  
>>>> today, asking
>>>> for technical details. That got me thinking--back when I first  
>>>> took up
>>>> photography in 1985, I religiously noted lens, exposure etc. in a  
>>>> notebook.
>>>> I still have that notebook. The only thing is, the I have never  
>>>> actually
>>>> used the information noted therein. Nowadays, I do not care about  
>>>> the
>>>> technical details, indeed, when I post my weekly pictures, I  
>>>> don't even
>>>> mention the equipment used. What's the point? Either the photo is  
>>>> good or it
>>>> isn't. Whether I used my 4x5 or my iPhone should not influence  
>>>> the viewer's
>>>> evaluation.
>>>>
>>>> Technical details are useless at best, and harmful at worst.<<<<<<<
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Nathan,
>>> Keeping details as I have heard many many photogs do over the  
>>> years. I have
>>> always asked.... "why do you do that?" The usual reply is great if  
>>> one is a
>>> techie instead of a photographer first.  "Just in case I need it  
>>> to take a
>>> similar picture."  Or, "so I will know what lens or film I used."  
>>> As though
>>> they're going to shoot the same scene same place 5 years later.
>>>
>>> The logical time anything technical needs to be "remembered" is  
>>> there is a
>>> specific action seen in the photograph." Blurred background in a  
>>> foot race
>>> or race cars and one wants to illustrate the high speed....  
>>> Whether you
>>> write it down or not doesn't matter as all you need to know is to  
>>> use a slow
>>> shutter speed  and pan camera as fast as the cars or athletes are  
>>> moving.
>>>
>>> It's called.... "Shooting swishy-pans" And I've done that since my  
>>> first
>>> Summer Olympics in Mexico 1968? Sure makes high school kids in a  
>>> race look
>>> like they're going 100 miles an hour.
>>>
>>> Like you, in my very early days I asked a photographer about  
>>> keeping records
>>> as it appeared every frame he shot he wrote it into a "little  
>>> black book"
>>> full of numbers, lens size, film, ASA rating etc etec. So I  
>>> thought, "Gee if
>>> he's doing that I better do it as it must be very important  
>>> because he
>>> writes it down after every picture taken."
>>>
>>> Bought a little black book, dated the page, location, camera  
>>> (Leica of
>>> course,) lens, aperture and shutter speed. ) As I closed the book  
>>> after an
>>> entry a super neat stock-car crash had begun to happen! In the  
>>> confusion of
>>> writing down the stupid information I missed a particularly  
>>> amazing crash of
>>> two cars rolling over and over!
>>>
>>> I bent down, picked up the little black book and threw it as far  
>>> as I could
>>> into the race track infield and never ever ever made any notes  
>>> again! But
>>> the techies love it!  In reality it's nothing but an incredible  
>>> waste of
>>> time for real photographers who take pictures to capture  
>>> incredible content
>>> moments!
>>>
>>> I DON'T CARE WHO THE HELL THE PHOTOG IS, THERE IS ONLY ONE THING  
>>> YOU NEED TO
>>> DO !
>>>
>>> and that is shoot succesful, interesting and on occaision.......   
>>> mind
>>> blowing photographs.
>>>
>>> WHAT LENS? HELL TELL ANYONE ASKING, ANY OLD NUMBER AS IT WONT MAKE  
>>> ANY
>>> DIFFERENCE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WONT OWN, NOR RUSH OUT AND POP $3  
>>> or $4
>>> THOUSAND FOR THE LENS IN ANY EVENT.
>>>
>>> And even if they did the chancs are they'd be so busy making notes  
>>> they'd
>>> miss the shot with their new $4k shining new lens.
>>>
>>> But then what doesn't turn my heart into a racing vehicle of  
>>> excitment
>>> having written it in the little black book. Turns the techie into  
>>> a fireball
>>> of wisdom because they have it written down for the next occaision  
>>> 25 years
>>> from now when they need the information.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> YNWA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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