Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I hope that you are right and that I am wrong. But I believe otherwise, sadly. Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ YNWA On Dec 15, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > My gut feeling is you're wrong too many children on both American coasts > have just died I've just seen the photo of Obama's face in the news. > > Was reading an economic thing yesterday. Not so good but private arms sales > in the USA are way up. Why? Because they know the writing is on the wall. > This is their last chance to put finishing touches on their beloved > arsenals. > I think in a week and a month our blood will still be up. > And the NRA goes down. > And in a year. > The anti gun legislation papers will have to be wrestled from Obama's cold > dead hands. Americans are going to be taking to the streets and I'm going > to > be one of them. > > This stuff happening now happens nowhere else in the world. > Constant people being shot. > I think I will be great for tourism as right now we are viewed by the > entire > world as a bunch of gun nuts. And they're right. But think its time has > come. We're going to have more people not afraid to come visit here. > > > On 12/15/12 1:47 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: > >> Most European countries have those rights and more. >> >> But anyway, it is a useless debate. The NRA has too much political power >> and >> the gun culture is too deeply ingrained in the US for anything to change. >> There will be outrage and sorrow for a few days, but it will die down and >> our >> collective attention will move on to something else. >> >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Phil Forrest wrote: >> >>> Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech, >>> religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law. Innocence >>> until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy trial. >>> Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the law for >>> all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights and >>> through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation says >>> they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including the >>> USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing to >>> give their lives to protect them. >>> >>> Phil Forrest >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800 >>> David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote: >>> >>>> Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by individuals >>>> and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors. >>>> The students in general study in safe environments little affected by >>>> violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its ugly >>>> head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have the >>>> same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does >>>> Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting games >>>> & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not >>>> maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and >>>> scarred for life. >>>> >>>> It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am >>>> certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane act. >>>> >>>> Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always defend >>>> the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally affected, I >>>> suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our differences in >>>> lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East >>>> versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms. >>>> >>>> As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the civilian >>>> population. Of course with the usual exceptions.. >>>> >>>> >>>> David Ching >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >