Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net> wrote: > Doug -- I think you have described and summed up the situation just > right. Robert > > > On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> my spell checker changed bokeh to bolshevik, though I am sure bokeh >> existed before the word. It however needed fast high quality lenses, >> that would be routinely ! shot effectively wide open, for very narrow >> dof, to see the effect that we call bokeh.....perhaps that was the key >> raison d'etre that caused leica lenses to be associated with bokeh. >> Pioneers like our Ted Grant, by shooting fast leica lenses wide open, >> were creating a new vision, and ultimately a new word.... though they >> deny this being their reason or their goal. I believe that this is correct, I do think it is evident in the images Ted and others produced, way back then in pre history, btw, I should have put my name here, Steve >> >> >> >>> Thanks, Doug, for still understanding what I was writing. Your point, >>> though, is not as self-obvious as it would first appear. Linguists >>> have found that different language groups divide the visible spectrum up >>> in different ways and have names for different colors within the >>> continuum of the spectrum, so that, for example, some cultures have >>> only two words for the range from yellow through green to blue, omitting >>> our word green. When asked what they call what we see as green, they >>> answer either yellow or blue, depending on where the shade of green >>> falls. They don't "see" green, only yellow and blue. So does green >>> exist for them? No, it doesn't: what they see is either yellow or >>> blue. >>> >>> Did bokeh exist for us before we borrowed the Japanese word for it and >>> became aware of it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Robert Meier wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nobody knew what broken was. >>>>> >>>> >>>> We didn't have a word for it. That doesn't preclude its existence. >>>> >>>> Doug Herr >>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information