Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks Tina, I never realised what Dennis Weaver lookalikes were reduced to when the series McCloud ended.... RoI Douglas PS I was not criticising Jim's photo but rather the car owner's bigotry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] PESO: Do not >I agree with Chris that the photo is documentation that needs to be seen. > So many people do not know that this kind of hatred and prejudice still > exists. It is still present and active in South Carolina: > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/73285000 > > Tina > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Bernard Quinn <bjq1 at mac.com> wrote: > >> >> George, >> >> I agree with you. I wish that we could have an honest dialogue in this >> country about the many and very serious problems we face. It may be >> possible, but it is something which we never seem to do. The polarization >> and the rigidity and the what might be described as the "I'm right Jack" >> attitude that many people have troubles me deeply and causes me a lot of >> pain. >> >> There is no question in my mind that there are documentaries which have >> lead to major change in the country. Edward R. Murrow's renowned "The >> Harvest of Shame" comes to mind, for one. I do not question the value of >> documenting things. But it also comes with a danger. >> >> It would please me a great deal if Jim's photo of the bumper sticker >> started a conversation which lead to progress. But, I have two concerns. >> The first is that one person's document may also be another person's hate >> speech. There is the possibility of a slippery slope here which really >> does >> concern me. >> >> My other concern is this. I probably have a fairly classical and orthodox >> view of the world. I would like to think that a person sees that bumper >> sticker, reacts to it, talks about it, and the world becomes an improved >> and better place. But, I am not sure that it works that way any more. >> Things are so polarized. I think there is a danger that things like that >> bumper sticker no longer promote conversation. Rather they serve to >> reinforce in both the minds of the right and the left that their own >> views >> and prejudices are correct and the people who do not agree with them are >> simply are idiots who do no bathe regularly. I will leave it to better >> minds than mine to decide if this is true or not. >> >> I have two big concerns here. The first is that valuable document or not >> that bumper sticker may also promote violence and hatred. I am not >> convinced that its existence will lead to progress. It may simply serve >> to >> further polarize us by working to confirm our prejudices. >> >> Barney >> >> >> Barney Quinn, WK3Z >> C: (301) 775-1386 >> H: (301) 654-0938 >> >> On Oct 16, 2012, at 4:10 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:26 PM, bjq1 at mac.com wrote: >> > >> >> ti is also playing with fire. Ugly can be fanned into very real flames >> all too easily?. >> > >> > Or "Ugly can be" left to smolder and stink. >> > >> > In either case it needs to be dealt with; exposed to the light of day; >> discussed. >> > >> > The concept of documentary, journalistic photography >> > requires, in my opinion, exposure of the good, bad, beautiful and ugly; >> > and it must be done very well; >> > with a sincere heart; >> > and sense of taste; >> > as was done in this case. >> > >> > Regards, >> > George Lottermoser >> > george at imagist.com >> > http://www.imagist.com >> > http://www.imagist.com/blog >> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > Tina Manley, ASMP > www.tinamanley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information