Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/08/07

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Subject: [Leica] M9 firmware update and 3rd party batteries
From: kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 17:24:35 -0700
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I know they could imbed a read-only chip in the battery for identifying 
same. I'm just convinced that they are not doing that. In fact, I regard the 
idea as ridiculous. Furthermore, it would not take a genius to counterfeit 
such a chip if they had done that.

Herbert Kanner
kanner at acm.org
650-326-8204

Question authority and the authorities will question you.



On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Lew Schwartz wrote:

> The magic way is to embed an id chip in the battery.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
> 
>> I would be willing to make a substantial bet that there is no magic way
>> that Leica can tell if you are using an aftermarket battery. After getting
>> a DOA aftermarket battery, I bit the bullet and bought a Leica battery as
>> my spare. When I tried to install the update, it told me that there was 
>> not
>> enough battery juice, and I had to replace this genuine battery by another
>> genuine one that had a full charge.  Obviously they are going by battery
>> voltage under load and objecting if there is a chance of failure during 
>> the
>> firmware update process.
>> 
>> Herbert Kanner
>> kanner at acm.org
>> 650-326-8204
>> 
>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:15 PM, John McMaster wrote:
>> 
>>> The only non-Leica battery I bought (and its replacement) were both DOA
>> on
>>> earlier firmware ;-) I think it is just a warning on remaining power
>> rather
>>> than hunting non-genuine batteries..........
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that you may get a warning, but that they will still
>>> work. If they're DOA, I'm screwed.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This no aftermarket battery thing is a real pain. If they hadn't
>>>> charged so much for something that is obviously available for much
>>>> less, they could have saved money on writing special firmware. Not
>>>> something that makes me feel good about the manufacturers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone report from the field if the update will reject my
>>>> non-Leica batteries? Not looking forward to replacing them. Also, will
>>>> the Leica only battery injunction be enforced on the MM and M10?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Lew Schwartz
> 
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