Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/18

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Subject: [Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:33:57 -0400

A real real poor example to pick as the Nikon 800E could make for a
significant increase in quality for very interesting reasons which could
affect the way many cameras are made in the future. Even though its a Nikon
the 800 vs. 800E has the eye of many key people in this Leica List. And has
the eye of the entire photographic industry turned upon it. It will probably
be my next camera. And the word is out as if no anti-aliasing filter and
another kind of optical assembly instead might really make a definitive
difference in a DSLR camera for 300 more bucks. If it does and I think it
will I'll be using that camera in 2013 probably right through 2016. And
plenty of other people on this list; and a lot of other lists.

There is a thought that the art of lens design becomes meaningless if you're
just going to put it through a lowest common denominator by dumbing it down
with an  anti-aliasing filter. A reason why Leica left them out in the
digital M's. Here we have it done interestingly different but with a DSLR
and in a camera many more of us can afford. Its big news to some. To others
they'd rather watch football on TV.

- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/


> From: James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:52:57 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How
> about this one?
> 
> George,
> 
> Of course he cared about his tools. He chose them well and they served
> him well. What I was talking about is this infernal pixel-peeping that
> we see so much of on the LUG (and elsewhere) every day. Do you really
> think HCB would really care if the Nikon 800E could resolve just a
> whisker finer than the 800? Really? That's what I meant by WHO CARES.
> OF COURSE we all choose the tools that we think are best for us. But
> it's the picture that counts, not the camera or the lens.
> 
> Jim Laird
> 
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:50 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:24 PM, James Laird wrote:
>> 
>>> WHO CARES?
>> 
>> The artists and craftsmen and women care.
>> 
>> Art and craft objects evolve out of countless choices.
>> Choices of tools and materials among them.
>> Every painter I've known has cared about his tools and materials.
>> Every sculptor I've known has cared about his tools and materials.
>> Every musician I've known has cared about his tools and materials.
>> Every writer I've known has cared about his tools and materials.
>> Every photographer I've known has cared about his tools and materials.
>> 
>> HCB (and every other great or not-so-great)
>> chose his tools, film, location, composition, focus, and moments of 
>> exposure.
>> They (we) choose our printers (whether humans or machines),
>> papers, inks, developers, et al.
>> Each choice is important, organic, fluid and subject to change;
>> for aesthetic, conceptual, economic or other reasons.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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In reply to: Message from digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird) ([Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?)