Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]He probably just got a pair of waterproofed shoes and wanted to test them out to see if they worked. If not he'd demand his francs back. Or he just had a meniscus operation and wanted to see if his knee still worked. If not he'd demand his francs back. - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:42:20 +0200 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one? > > Perhaps the guy in the photo DID want to get his feet wet, and kept > trying to fall off the board - hence the unbelievable repeats and > multiple stolen takes. With French people, you never know ... > Phil the frog, down the ladder now. > > > Le 18 juin 12 ? 20:10, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : > >> Its possible a "trick" to this shot is the fact that he had the camera >> braced in a fence poking through it. Had he just stood there and >> shot it I >> can see it possibly lacking some of the magic it seems to have now. >> I've been doing that kind of thing often as I do a lot of low light >> shooting >> looking for braces for my camera on the scene. I've been bracing my >> camera >> on all kinds of things. Vertical poles, horizontal barricades and >> doing long >> exposures with not short lenes and getting a different kind of >> result. It's >> hard to put your figure on why it would add a touch of magic to many >> shots >> but I do think it does. More so than walking into the scene with >> your camera >> on your tripod. >> But being able to stop down on a night shot gives you something as >> few are >> going to do night shots with anything other than hand held >> technique. Which >> means pretty much they're shooting close to wide open. >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >>> From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> >>> Organization: Summa Ventures Ltd >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:48:56 +0100 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one? >>> >>> Funnily enough, I recall having seen the alleged contact sheet at an >>> exhibition >>> somewhen, but I remember not having been deeply convinced by its >>> authenticity. >>> That may of course be because I have been brought up on the >>> "legend" of The >>> Decisive Moment and that shot's place in it. >>> >>> On the other hand why would anyone fake it? >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On 17/06/2012 08:51, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>> I was afraid of that. I went flipping though the book when I was in >>>> Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in >>>> NY though >>>> was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. >>>> Early work. >>>> It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was >>>> not aware >>>> I was that delusional. Possible though. The place I would have >>>> seen it >>>> would have been in the International Center of Photography five >>>> years ago. >>>> Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it. >>>> I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and >>>> Google contacts >>>> sheet mode searches. >>>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946 >>>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007 >>>> http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook >>>> >>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>> Mark Rabiner >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one? >>>>> >>>>> Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the >>>>> negative >>>>> shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes >>>>> on on edge >>>>> even (Henri "ate them," so he said). >>>>> >>>>> No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's >>>>> not >>>>> included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either. >>>>> >>>>> I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years >>>>> ago in >>>>> SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the contact sheet in the book "Celebrating the Negative" by >>>>>> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over >>>>>> the same >>>>>> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times. >>>>>> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet >>>>>> when it was >>>>>> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few >>>>>> years ago: >>>>>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946 >>>>>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007 >>>>>> >>>>>> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare better known as: >>>>>> The Puddle Jumper >>>>>> >>>>>> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an >>>>>> example for >>>>>> the >>>>>> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. >>>>>> This photo >>>>>> is >>>>>> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his. >>>>>> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet that he >>>>>> is >>>>>> shooting >>>>>> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" >>>>>> myth; Waiting >>>>>> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence >>>>>> clicking once >>>>>> and going home. >>>>>> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip >>>>>> after >>>>>> strip. >>>>>> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine >>>>>> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be >>>>>> heavily >>>>>> involved with what he was shooting. >>>>>> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're >>>>>> shooting. >>>>>> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds >>>>>> of leering >>>>>> men... >>>>>> >>>>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>>>> Mark Rabiner >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700 >>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same >>>>>>> thing you >>>>>>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is >>>>>>> a myth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and I just love this video >>>>>>> http://vimeo.com/33376713 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen >>>>>>> <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had >>>>>>>> the guy >>>>>> do >>>>>>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot >>>>>>>> a series >>>>>> of >>>>>>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the >>>>>>>> images he >>>>>>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> =========================================================== >>> Dr Peter Dzwig >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information