Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Perhaps the guy in the photo DID want to get his feet wet, and kept trying to fall off the board - hence the unbelievable repeats and multiple stolen takes. With French people, you never know ... Phil the frog, down the ladder now. Le 18 juin 12 ? 20:10, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : > Its possible a "trick" to this shot is the fact that he had the camera > braced in a fence poking through it. Had he just stood there and > shot it I > can see it possibly lacking some of the magic it seems to have now. > I've been doing that kind of thing often as I do a lot of low light > shooting > looking for braces for my camera on the scene. I've been bracing my > camera > on all kinds of things. Vertical poles, horizontal barricades and > doing long > exposures with not short lenes and getting a different kind of > result. It's > hard to put your figure on why it would add a touch of magic to many > shots > but I do think it does. More so than walking into the scene with > your camera > on your tripod. > But being able to stop down on a night shot gives you something as > few are > going to do night shots with anything other than hand held > technique. Which > means pretty much they're shooting close to wide open. > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> >> Organization: Summa Ventures Ltd >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:48:56 +0100 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one? >> >> Funnily enough, I recall having seen the alleged contact sheet at an >> exhibition >> somewhen, but I remember not having been deeply convinced by its >> authenticity. >> That may of course be because I have been brought up on the >> "legend" of The >> Decisive Moment and that shot's place in it. >> >> On the other hand why would anyone fake it? >> >> Peter >> >> On 17/06/2012 08:51, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>> I was afraid of that. I went flipping though the book when I was in >>> Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in >>> NY though >>> was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. >>> Early work. >>> It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was >>> not aware >>> I was that delusional. Possible though. The place I would have >>> seen it >>> would have been in the International Center of Photography five >>> years ago. >>> Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it. >>> I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and >>> Google contacts >>> sheet mode searches. >>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946 >>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007 >>> http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook >>> >>> - - from my iRabs. >>> Mark Rabiner >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one? >>>> >>>> Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the >>>> negative >>>> shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes >>>> on on edge >>>> even (Henri "ate them," so he said). >>>> >>>> No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's >>>> not >>>> included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either. >>>> >>>> I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years >>>> ago in >>>> SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-( >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> In the contact sheet in the book "Celebrating the Negative" by >>>>> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over >>>>> the same >>>>> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times. >>>>> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet >>>>> when it was >>>>> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few >>>>> years ago: >>>>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946 >>>>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007 >>>>> >>>>> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare better known as: >>>>> The Puddle Jumper >>>>> >>>>> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an >>>>> example for >>>>> the >>>>> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. >>>>> This photo >>>>> is >>>>> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his. >>>>> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet that he >>>>> is >>>>> shooting >>>>> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" >>>>> myth; Waiting >>>>> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence >>>>> clicking once >>>>> and going home. >>>>> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip >>>>> after >>>>> strip. >>>>> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine >>>>> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be >>>>> heavily >>>>> involved with what he was shooting. >>>>> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're >>>>> shooting. >>>>> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds >>>>> of leering >>>>> men... >>>>> >>>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>>> Mark Rabiner >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> >>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700 >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one? >>>>>> >>>>>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same >>>>>> thing you >>>>>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is >>>>>> a myth. >>>>>> >>>>>> and I just love this video >>>>>> http://vimeo.com/33376713 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen >>>>>> <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had >>>>>>> the guy >>>>> do >>>>>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot >>>>>>> a series >>>>> of >>>>>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the >>>>>>> images he >>>>>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> =========================================================== >> Dr Peter Dzwig >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information