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Subject: [Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:30:44 -0500
References: <CAMGHw9B=aWixmXOd4ESpQ3JEeNkKXZmpuCKStbxTSdMk7-vuHw@mail.gmail.com> <CAF8hL-EpYuzLX+e37HiX-8VQxmgq3cfeEuAY9OPC1bTWonTMsA@mail.gmail.com> <BDB544C8-4402-4C04-90E9-6831BF4F3727@gmail.com> <CAF8hL-GC1=evwgupQiwdt243U43Kj+4uf9zGUjngBm4yV_UPaw@mail.gmail.com> <BD64A13C-F1C2-438D-8CB1-36BB43C0E81C@embarqmail.com>

Ric,

Now THAT'S what really matters! I hope the steaks are delicious.

Jim Laird

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> not particularly wierd for the list
>
> some tend to diddle on about one or two famous pictures while NOT taking 
> or sharing any themselves
> (clearly not reference to Nathan or Richard or several others since they 
> share profusely)
>
> still more stroke the lines of some piece of equipment until it is worn 
> brassy
>
> perhaps this is the itch jim is scratching
>
> i suppose i have some interest in those questions, but find i would rather 
> spend my time producing pictures (however mundane they may be)
>
> i love HCB's pics, but really, spring is coming to summer, and my time is 
> better spent taking pictures than trying to machete my way through the 
> jungle of BS that an artist spins aroung his "art"
>
> typed here because I'm waiting for the charcoal to reach the right color 
> to cook a steak for fathers day
>
> order of ppriorities today:
> 1 cook a proper t-bone
> 2 enjoy family
> 3 take photos
> 4 share photos
> .
> .
> .
> .
> ? find the truth in art
>
> Ric Carter
> www.CartersXRd.net
> http://www.facebook.com/ric.carter
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>
>> No, just a reaction toward a curious rant that wasn't even addressing
>> anything we talked about.
>>
>> The amazing thing is apparently Steve concurred with your opinions?
>>
>> Weird.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Seemed to have touched a nerve here? ?:)
>>>
>>> Jim Laird
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim, did you get off the wrong side of the bed, or are you just upset
>>> that
>>>> B&D did not ship you the OM-D? :-)
>>>>
>>>> It's simply a matter of academic curiosity.
>>>>
>>>> I for one, care very much "the story of the shot." Not that knowing it
>>> will
>>>> necessarily help me in my photography, but simply that they are
>>> interesting
>>>> things to know.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to see some of my photos, regardless of gears, please take a
>>>> look at http://richardmanphoto.com - which actually does not mention any
>>>> gear, except in my blog postings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:24 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Really? We are worried about whether or not the 'Iwo Jima' shot or the
>>>>> HCB 'Puddle Jumper' shot was staged? Really? Are we worried that maybe
>>>>> the eyelashes on the guy in the puddle jumper shot might be sharper if
>>>>> we shot them with a Nikon D800 vs D800E? Really? Doesn't this seem a
>>>>> bit ridiculous to all of you? Maybe a bit anal?
>>>>> WHO CARES? They are great photographs. Who cares if they were shot
>>>>> with an M4 and a 50mm Collapsible Summicron or an 800E with a Nikkor
>>>>> 50 1.4? It's STILL a great photograph, isn't it? I've seen great
>>>>> photographs taken with 3.2 MP Minolta cameras that most of us would
>>>>> consider pieces of crap, but the photo...a work of art. Beautiful by
>>>>> anyone's standards.
>>>>> I think we all need to take a deep breath, slow down, and realize once
>>>>> and for all that the photograph is what counts. NOT the camera or the
>>>>> lens or the film or the memory card or CS5 or LR4 or whatever we used
>>>>> to get it. A great photograph stands on its own merit. And we all know
>>>>> that the minute we see it. That's what keeps us shooting. We all think
>>>>> that someday we might be skilled enough or (in the end) lucky enough
>>>>> to be in the right place at the right time with a camera to take a
>>>>> photograph that is eternal. Like HCB. He took thousands of
>>>>> photographs, many of which were probably NOT keepers. But he kept on
>>>>> shooting because he was rich enough or lucky enough to be able to do
>>>>> nothing but take photographs, to do the thing that we all love so
>>>>> much. God, he makes me so jealous sometimes. We all probably wish we
>>>>> could have the chance to do what he did.
>>>>> But most of us can't so we think if we buy X lens and Y camera with Z
>>>>> processor/computer that maybe we can do what he did, oh god if we only
>>>>> could. Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my humble opinion ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Laird
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>
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>>
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>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>
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Replies: Reply from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?)
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