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Subject: [Leica] OT: Are we Anal or what? "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:25:30 -0400
References: <CAMGHw9B=aWixmXOd4ESpQ3JEeNkKXZmpuCKStbxTSdMk7-vuHw@mail.gmail.com> <CAF8hL-EpYuzLX+e37HiX-8VQxmgq3cfeEuAY9OPC1bTWonTMsA@mail.gmail.com> <BDB544C8-4402-4C04-90E9-6831BF4F3727@gmail.com> <CAF8hL-GC1=evwgupQiwdt243U43Kj+4uf9zGUjngBm4yV_UPaw@mail.gmail.com>

not particularly wierd for the list

some tend to diddle on about one or two famous pictures while NOT taking or 
sharing any themselves
(clearly not reference to Nathan or Richard or several others since they 
share profusely)

still more stroke the lines of some piece of equipment until it is worn 
brassy

perhaps this is the itch jim is scratching

i suppose i have some interest in those questions, but find i would rather 
spend my time producing pictures (however mundane they may be)

i love HCB's pics, but really, spring is coming to summer, and my time is 
better spent taking pictures than trying to machete my way through the 
jungle of BS that an artist spins aroung his "art"

typed here because I'm waiting for the charcoal to reach the right color to 
cook a steak for fathers day

order of ppriorities today:
1 cook a proper t-bone
2 enjoy family
3 take photos
4 share photos
.
.
.
.
? find the truth in art

Ric Carter
www.CartersXRd.net
http://www.facebook.com/ric.carter





On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Richard Man wrote:

> No, just a reaction toward a curious rant that wasn't even addressing
> anything we talked about.
> 
> The amazing thing is apparently Steve concurred with your opinions?
> 
> Weird.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Seemed to have touched a nerve here?  :)
>> 
>> Jim Laird
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jim, did you get off the wrong side of the bed, or are you just upset
>> that
>>> B&D did not ship you the OM-D? :-)
>>> 
>>> It's simply a matter of academic curiosity.
>>> 
>>> I for one, care very much "the story of the shot." Not that knowing it
>> will
>>> necessarily help me in my photography, but simply that they are
>> interesting
>>> things to know.
>>> 
>>> If you want to see some of my photos, regardless of gears, please take a
>>> look at http://richardmanphoto.com - which actually does not mention any
>>> gear, except in my blog postings.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:24 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Really? We are worried about whether or not the 'Iwo Jima' shot or the
>>>> HCB 'Puddle Jumper' shot was staged? Really? Are we worried that maybe
>>>> the eyelashes on the guy in the puddle jumper shot might be sharper if
>>>> we shot them with a Nikon D800 vs D800E? Really? Doesn't this seem a
>>>> bit ridiculous to all of you? Maybe a bit anal?
>>>> WHO CARES? They are great photographs. Who cares if they were shot
>>>> with an M4 and a 50mm Collapsible Summicron or an 800E with a Nikkor
>>>> 50 1.4? It's STILL a great photograph, isn't it? I've seen great
>>>> photographs taken with 3.2 MP Minolta cameras that most of us would
>>>> consider pieces of crap, but the photo...a work of art. Beautiful by
>>>> anyone's standards.
>>>> I think we all need to take a deep breath, slow down, and realize once
>>>> and for all that the photograph is what counts. NOT the camera or the
>>>> lens or the film or the memory card or CS5 or LR4 or whatever we used
>>>> to get it. A great photograph stands on its own merit. And we all know
>>>> that the minute we see it. That's what keeps us shooting. We all think
>>>> that someday we might be skilled enough or (in the end) lucky enough
>>>> to be in the right place at the right time with a camera to take a
>>>> photograph that is eternal. Like HCB. He took thousands of
>>>> photographs, many of which were probably NOT keepers. But he kept on
>>>> shooting because he was rich enough or lucky enough to be able to do
>>>> nothing but take photographs, to do the thing that we all love so
>>>> much. God, he makes me so jealous sometimes. We all probably wish we
>>>> could have the chance to do what he did.
>>>> But most of us can't so we think if we buy X lens and Y camera with Z
>>>> processor/computer that maybe we can do what he did, oh god if we only
>>>> could. Really?
>>>> 
>>>> Just my humble opinion ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Laird
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
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