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Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:41:50 -0700
References: <CC0304D2.1FCA8%mark@rabinergroup.com> <D5739A70-8E1D-483E-904A-2DEAE9287829@comcast.net> <AC964634-ECB4-4136-A39B-E2EC89BD2353@frozenlight.eu> <CAF8hL-GLKFny7obS9LYpaENaqWJ7ereAoMeB9SD0DLF9DrfakA@mail.gmail.com>

I've seen the contact sheet as well, with different 'decisive moments' on 
it. It's still a great shot, but it had a director and an actor.

Henning


On 2012-06-17, at 4:50 AM, Richard Man wrote:

> Well, with 3 confirmations, I guess this really cinches it.
> 
> Thanks to all of you
> 
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> frozenlight.eu>wrote:
> 
>> Same here.
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Richard Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Mark - I remember seeing the contact sheet with multiple jumps, too, but
>> whether it was in connection with the NYLUG meting or elsewhere, I can't
>> remember at the moment.
>>> 
>>> Dick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:51, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I was afraid of that.  I went flipping though the book when I was in
>>>> Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in NY
>> though
>>>> was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. Early
>> work.
>>>> It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was not
>> aware
>>>> I was that delusional.  Possible though. The place I would have seen it
>>>> would have been in the International Center of Photography five years
>> ago.
>>>> Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it.
>>>> I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and Google
>> contacts
>>>> sheet mode searches.
>>>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
>>>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
>>>> http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook
>>>> 
>>>> - - from my iRabs.
>>>> Mark Rabiner
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re:  How about this one?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the negative
>>>>> shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes on on
>> edge
>>>>> even (Henri "ate them," so he said).
>>>>> 
>>>>> No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's not
>>>>> included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years ago in
>>>>> SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-(
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
>>>>> rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the contact sheet in the book  "Celebrating the Negative"  by
>>>>>> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over the
>> same
>>>>>> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times.
>>>>>> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet when
>> it was
>>>>>> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few years
>> ago:
>>>>>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
>>>>>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare  better known as:
>>>>>> The Puddle Jumper
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an example
>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. This
>> photo
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his.
>>>>>> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet  that he is
>>>>>> shooting
>>>>>> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" myth;
>> Waiting
>>>>>> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence clicking
>> once
>>>>>> and going home.
>>>>>> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip after
>>>>>> strip.
>>>>>> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine
>>>>>> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be
>> heavily
>>>>>> involved with what he was shooting.
>>>>>> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're
>> shooting.
>>>>>> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds of
>> leering
>>>>>> men...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - - from my iRabs.
>>>>>> Mark Rabiner
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700
>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same thing
>> you
>>>>>>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is a
>> myth.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and I just love this video
>>>>>>> http://vimeo.com/33376713
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had the
>> guy
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot a
>> series
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the
>> images he
>>>>>>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> 
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> 
> -- 
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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Henning Wulff
henningw at archiphoto.com






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