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Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 04:50:26 -0700
References: <CC0304D2.1FCA8%mark@rabinergroup.com> <D5739A70-8E1D-483E-904A-2DEAE9287829@comcast.net> <AC964634-ECB4-4136-A39B-E2EC89BD2353@frozenlight.eu>

Well, with 3 confirmations, I guess this really cinches it.

Thanks to all of you

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
frozenlight.eu>wrote:

> Same here.
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Richard Taylor wrote:
>
> > Mark - I remember seeing the contact sheet with multiple jumps, too, but
> whether it was in connection with the NYLUG meting or elsewhere, I can't
> remember at the moment.
> >
> > Dick
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:51, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was afraid of that.  I went flipping though the book when I was in
> >> Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in NY
> though
> >> was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. Early
> work.
> >> It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was not
> aware
> >> I was that delusional.  Possible though. The place I would have seen it
> >> would have been in the International Center of Photography five years
> ago.
> >> Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it.
> >> I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and Google
> contacts
> >> sheet mode searches.
> >> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
> >> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
> >> http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook
> >>
> >> - - from my iRabs.
> >> Mark Rabiner
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re:  How about this one?
> >>>
> >>> Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the negative
> >>> shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes on on
> edge
> >>> even (Henri "ate them," so he said).
> >>>
> >>> No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's not
> >>> included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either.
> >>>
> >>> I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years ago in
> >>> SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-(
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> >>> rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In the contact sheet in the book  "Celebrating the Negative"  by
> >>>> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over the
> same
> >>>> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times.
> >>>> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet when
> it was
> >>>> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few years
> ago:
> >>>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
> >>>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
> >>>>
> >>>> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare  better known as:
> >>>> The Puddle Jumper
> >>>>
> >>>> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an example
> for
> >>>> the
> >>>> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. This
> photo
> >>>> is
> >>>> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his.
> >>>> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet  that he is
> >>>> shooting
> >>>> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" myth;
> Waiting
> >>>> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence clicking
> once
> >>>> and going home.
> >>>> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip after
> >>>> strip.
> >>>> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine
> >>>> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be
> heavily
> >>>> involved with what he was shooting.
> >>>> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're
> shooting.
> >>>> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds of
> leering
> >>>> men...
> >>>>
> >>>> - - from my iRabs.
> >>>> Mark Rabiner
> >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700
> >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same thing
> you
> >>>>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is a
> myth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and I just love this video
> >>>>> http://vimeo.com/33376713
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had the
> guy
> >>>> do
> >>>>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot a
> series
> >>>> of
> >>>>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the
> images he
> >>>>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>>>
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// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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