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Subject: [Leica] Endgadget on the MM
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:26:29 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1BL-hcJVjvwAUPexUWNex5k24H8OVdET66mtV95rZbfLw@mail.gmail.com> <CBEC1108.1EF01%mark@rabinergroup.com> <CA+yJO1CqZUiP7v-ihVwCfpLSu4OGYAF=N49pavOAo8Lhr5ystA@mail.gmail.com>

That was Zen, This is Tao.

Apparently the 17mm TSE from Canon is one of the best wide angles ever.
There is even a Frankendigital camera that uses the Canon wide to cover for
medium format digital back WITH shift and people are getting good results.

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> No, I was referring to Canon glass on Canon cameras.  When I switched to
> Canon, before Leica went digital, I bought several of the Canon L lenses,
> supposedly top of the line.  I was so disappointed!  Canon wides are
> absolutely awful.  My 24L fell apart twice and had to be repaired.  The
> second time it was out of warranty so I glued pieces back together.  The
> fringing and CA on the edges of the wides is unbelievable.  That's one
> reason I've gone all the way with Leica and never looked back.  I have used
> Leica lenses on the Canon bodies with adapters but since I got the DMR, I
> never do that anymore!  The CCD sensor is just plain better!
>
> Tina
>
> >> 3200
> > >>> or even 1600, it will be well worth the price to me.  I'm looking
> > forward
> > >>> to more dynamic range and lots of fine detail at higher ISOs.  The
> DNGs
> > >>> posted show this is possible with the MM.
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't want a CMOS sensor.  I've already compared the two and much
> > >> prefer
> > >>> what I get from CCD.  Why would I want anything that is already
> > available
> > >>> with the Canon I have and hate?
> > >>>
> > >>> Tina
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> > >>> rabinergroup.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> What's on my mind is the people who would buy the Leica M9 Monochrom
> > >> would
> > >>>> be who?
> > >>>> What's on my mind is the state of black and white image making
> after a
> > >>>> decade of people shooting digital many of them like myself who were
> > >> black
> > >>>> and white specialists in film didn't feel the urge to specialize in
> > >> black
> > >>>> and white in digital.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> With Erwin mentioning stuff like the new sensor on the M9 will be
> CMOS
> > >> it
> > >>>> appears that the way long overdue sensor for the M9 is not a
> permeant
> > >>>> invisible dream.:
> > >>>> "This intention has been stated several times by high-ranking Leica
> > >>>> officials and during the Berlin interview sessions Mr. Kaufmann made
> > >> hardly
> > >>>> disguised remarks in this direction."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So a new sensor competitive with the best from Canon and Nikon is
> not
> > a
> > >> fig
> > >>>> Newton of someone else's imagination.
> > >>>> Its history which just hasn't gotten around to happening yet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You can have that kind of power ahead of time if you can get an M9
> > >>>> Monochrom.
> > >>>> And feel what its like to shoot like you did in the 1990's.
> > >>>> When filters  meant something.
> > >>>> If I was a few notches higher in the dead presidents deparment I'd
> > >>>> certainly
> > >>>> get one.
> > >>>> But if I had the cash in pocket I'd let it sit and fester till the
> M9
> > >> goes
> > >>>> CMOS.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - - from my iRabs.
> > >>>> Mark Rabiner
> > >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> Leica Users Group.
> > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
> information
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Tina Manley, ASMP
> > >>> www.tinamanley.com
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Leica Users Group.
> > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Leica Users Group.
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tina Manley, ASMP
> > > www.tinamanley.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Leica Users Group.
> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>



-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Endgadget on the MM)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Endgadget on the MM)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Endgadget on the MM)