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Subject: [Leica] Ming Thein part 3 - MM vs D800E in B&W
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:35:21 -0700
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While it's a good point, the Leica M9 has similar price / performance issue
with, lets say the Nikon D700. So it's nothing new here in that sense. M9
shooters choose it because of other factor, mainly that it's a rangefinder
and with the advantages that come with it.

I can say for certain that I would have gotten some images that I did not
get at the Occupy if I had an MM. I cannot say that if I had a Nikon.

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Dante Stella <dstella1 at 
ameritech.net>wrote:

> It's a new version of that lens from the 2000s, but your point is a good
> one.
>
> It's not that an MM holds its own with a 36mp camera. It's that a $3600
> outfit involving an OK lens is performing at the same level as a system
> including the best 50 ever, costing a total of $16,000, having no color
> capability and allowing no highlight recoverability.
>
> There is no comparison for size/weight, and for some purposes, it's better
> to use traditional contrast filters, but still... most people with the
> money to even consider a MM have some understanding of marginal utility.
>
> Dante
>
> On May 27, 2012, at 9:20 AM, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> > The lens he tested the 50AA against is the old pancake 45mm lens, isn't
> it?
> >
> > Having said all that, the results for a 40+ year old $100 lens + $3500
> body
> > compared to a new, SOTA $7000 lens + $9000 body is pretty upsetting.
> >
> > Nikon did pretty well... in fact, for the $12,000 difference in price,
> the
> > image results indicate the 50AA + M9m is way overpriced and outclassed
> on a
> > value for money equivalent.
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > Red735i at earthlink.net
> >
> >
> > This I did not notice, I must say.  I wonder why he didn't spring
> > ~$200 for a 50/1.8 G lens?  It really seems a weird 'comparison' to me.
> >
> > Marty
> >
> >
> >
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-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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