Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/27

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Subject: [Leica] Ming Thein part 3 - MM vs D800E in B&W
From: dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 09:37:01 -0400
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It's a new version of that lens from the 2000s, but your point is a good 
one. 

It's not that an MM holds its own with a 36mp camera. It's that a $3600 
outfit involving an OK lens is performing at the same level as a system 
including the best 50 ever, costing a total of $16,000, having no color 
capability and allowing no highlight recoverability.

There is no comparison for size/weight, and for some purposes, it's better 
to use traditional contrast filters, but still... most people with the money 
to even consider a MM have some understanding of marginal utility.

Dante

On May 27, 2012, at 9:20 AM, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at earthlink.net> 
wrote:

> The lens he tested the 50AA against is the old pancake 45mm lens, isn't it?
> 
> Having said all that, the results for a 40+ year old $100 lens + $3500 body
> compared to a new, SOTA $7000 lens + $9000 body is pretty upsetting.
> 
> Nikon did pretty well... in fact, for the $12,000 difference in price, the
> image results indicate the 50AA + M9m is way overpriced and outclassed on a
> value for money equivalent.
> 
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at earthlink.net
> 
> 
> This I did not notice, I must say.  I wonder why he didn't spring
> ~$200 for a 50/1.8 G lens?  It really seems a weird 'comparison' to me.
> 
> Marty
> 
> 
> 
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