Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/30

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Subject: [Leica] retro focus…
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:34:44 -0700
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Steve,
If you want to wait until next week, I can tell you if NJ does a good job.
I sent both my M and my Nocti back to have them "mated." Purportedly when I
bought my M and Nocti from the dealer a few months ago, the dealer sent the
Nocti to NJ to have it CLA'd and coded and "brought to specs" with their
standard M9 (not mine). I think you know the rest of that part of the
story. I will get both my M and Nocti back hopefully mid week next week and
can let you know how it is by the weekend.
Best,
Bob

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Richard Man <richard at 
> richardmanphoto.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I think the proper terms is back focus.
> >
>
> "Back focus" gets used all over the internet for everything from out of
> spec equipment to focus shift.  Steve's lens is not adjusted to factory
> specs.
>
>
> > If the focus point changes as you change the aperture, then it's focus
> > shift and you are stuck. You can then decide to calibrate to an aperture
> > that makes the most sense to you, usually at wide open and hope the DoF
> > will cover for any errors in narrower aperture.
> >
>
> If you have genuine focus problems wide open the problem is not focus
> shift.
>
> The focus point of the Noctilux shifts substantially when stopping down.
>  As Leica adjusts this lens when correctly focused the plane of optimum
> sharpness for a Noctilux is slightly (very slightly) in front of the point
> you focus on.  Then as you stop down the focus point shifts back, mostly
> within the plane of sharpness offered by increased depth of field.  You can
> get Leica to adjust the lens to focus correctly at f1 but then focus shift
> means that your focus will be off until f5.6.  I got mine adjusted this way
> because I always carry an f2 50mm lens when I carry my Nocti, so it
> basically gets used at f1 or not at all.
>
> Your lens and camera(s) need to be adjusted to factory specifications and
> tested together.  You need specialised equipment to do this.
>
>
>
> > I believe this is one of the reasons why the Nocti /0.95 was created.
> >
>
> And because some of the special glass in the f1 ran out and more couldn't
> easily be manufactured.
>
>
> > You should test out whether it's focus shift. Just put the camera on a
> > tripod and photograph a yard stick at an angle. Take multiple photos
> > without changing the focus but only the aperture.
> >
>
> This is good advice, but the first thing to do is to do some really
> critical wide open focusing to see where the point of optimum sharpness is
> relative to the focus point.  If this is off, then there's no point
> worrying about focus shift; you know it's there.
>
> Marty
>
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-- 
Bob Adler
Redwood City, CA
http://www.rgaphoto.com


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