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Subject: [Leica] Not yet upgrading to LR4
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:11:55 -0700
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Mark, I swapped from a normal 7200 RPM to 10000 RPM drive when I needed to
upgrade the drive, and the difference is there, but not so much that I'd
say - do it now!

SSD is much faster, but since no one can afford SSD as their main drive,
it's not clear to me how best to use it yet...

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Mark Pope <mark at whitedogs.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Douglas,
>
> that's exactly what I did and it wasn't that expensive.  I'm lucky in that
> I have a local store that really care about the systems they build.
> I ended up with a core i7 cpu, 16GB RAM, a 1GB video card and 2TB HDD (I
> subsequently added the 2TB drive from my old XP machine, which holds my
> images).
> I'm running 64-bit Windows 7 professional.
> The speed of the system is limited by the main HDD, but it is quite fast.
> Having read Richard's post, I am tempted to use a faster HDD, but it's not
> a priority at this time.
>
> The only downside is that I can't run my Minolta film scanner. Apparently,
> the USB interface on the scanner has problems with timing with faster
> machines :-(
>
>
>
>
> Mark Pope,
> Swindon, Wilts
> UK
>
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> On 14/03/2012 00:14, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>
>> Thanks again, Richard
>>
>> looks like a custom-built job for me.
>>
>> Best
>> Douglas
>>
>> On 13.03.2012 22:57, Richard Man wrote:
>>
>>> I would certainly go for a configurable box from someone rather than a
>>> name
>>> brand. For us photographers, we really want the fastest CPU, but not
>>> necessarily bazillion cores (e.g. 4 cores at 3 GHz of the same processor
>>> will be better than 8 cores at 2.66 Ghz - for the SAME processor), the
>>> mostest memory (8Gb minimum, 16GB is much better and 32GB will get
>>> diminished return) and just a plain decent card and the fastest SATA
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> For $3000-$4000, in US, I could get i7 @3GHz, may be 8 cores (again 4
>>> would
>>> be fine), at least 16 GB, probably more like 32GB, 2 TB 10,000 RPM drive
>>> and a decent card easily. So you are good to go.
>>>
>>> Just a few other drives for continuous backup, but they are cheap.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Douglas Sharp<douglas.sharp at gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks Richard, I'll look into it.
>>>>
>>>> Or what do you think of these people?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.happyware.de/en/
>>>>
>>>> They're more or less just up the road from me, close to Hamburg - I
>>>> translated some marketing stuff for them recently - and they appear
>>>> offer
>>>> some pretty good custom deals.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'll ask them for a quote. I'm thinking of a limit of 2-2.5
>>>> thousand
>>>> euros - so that should get me quite a bit of power and speed.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Douglas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13.03.2012 21:00, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Doug, get the i7 machine and load it with at least 16 GB. 32 GB if
>>>>> you can
>>>>> afford it. If you can't afford SSD, then get the 10,000 RPM drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> The video card won't make much difference for Photoshop. Just get a
>>>>> decent
>>>>> one with at least 512MB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Run Win7 x64 of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your quality of life will improve a lot :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Douglas Sharp<douglas.sharp at gmx.de
>>>>> >**
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for the advice - I'm currently looking at Lenovo
>>>>>> Workstations with
>>>>>> lots of number-crunching abilities that can speed up my translation
>>>>>> databases and not slow down to a crawl when using Photoshop CS (I'm
>>>>>> currently working with 250 MB files of scanned mining maps and it
>>>>>> is S l
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> w! - only 2.4GBs of RAM).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone heard anything particularly good or bad about Lenovo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13.03.2012 17:52, Mark Pope wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would be inclined to install Lightroom3 on the Windows 7 machine
>>>>>>> first,
>>>>>>> then migrate your images/catalogue over by exporting it from the XP
>>>>>>> machine, then import on the Windows 7 machine. Only when you're
>>>>>>> satisfied
>>>>>>> that everything is working satisfactorily on the Windows 7 machine
>>>>>>> would I
>>>>>>> upgrade.
>>>>>>> You may also have to copy any settings you have made in the print
>>>>>>> module,
>>>>>>> for example for any bespoke print sizes, as these aren't part of the
>>>>>>> catalogue.
>>>>>>> Printer profiles will also need to be installed on the new machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark Pope,
>>>>>>> Swindon, Wilts
>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Homepage http://www.monomagic.co.uk
>>>>>>> Blog
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>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>
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