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Subject: [Leica] OT (very) The Great Prostate Debate: Does ScreeningSaveLives?: Scientific American And a bit more to think about
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:28:39 -0800
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On Feb 9, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Marty Deveney wrote:

> As a scientist I see this all the time.  The percentage of people in
> Australia who are taught science is dropping, and by some measures how
> well they are taught it has decreased too.  Society is returning to
> belief based systems, but those individuals still personally have very
> high expectations from science for them personally, without
> understanding it at all.

exactly Marty, belief based, without a knowledge or understanding of science 
or medicine, but certain that belief is more powerful than knowledge.


Steve


> When I speak to public groups about, for
> instance, the impossibility of eradicating an invasive seaweed from a
> Port, they make all sorts of comments about genetic approaches, manual
> removal, chemical and biological control to achieve eradication,
> usually without understanding that the kind of technology they're
> suggesting doesn't exist in animal science or human medicine
> (typically at the forefront of genetic intervention) or that the other
> approaches would be prohibitively expensive and unlikely to succeed
> anyway.  I get similar comments wherever I go and whoever I speak to,
> so it's widespread, not isolated.  I'd hate to be a medical doctor in
> this sort of social climate.
> 
> Marty
> 
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