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Subject: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:00:08 -0800
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On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Robert Adler wrote:

> Interestingly enough, it's one of the least expensive I've seen! And it's
> getting CLA'd in NJ, coded and calibrated to the M9 at no cost to me. So it
> was IMO, the price that had to be paid, albeit at the lower end of today's
> market.
> 
> OK. Kimono closed; you can open your eyes now!
> Bob


one questioin Bob....

when ?

Steve


> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:37 PM, Robert Adler wrote:
>> 
>>> Well I'll open my Kimono here.
>> 
>> 
>> oh my Bob, let's see, do I remember how to blush?
>> 
>>> I just bought a use Nocti; last generation before the 0.95. It's being
>>> coded and matched to an M9 in NJ. I paid $6,500. There. I said it. I feel
>>> better already!
>> 
>> ouch, I should have hung onto both Noctilux I used to own!
>> 
>>> I don't think I would have been willing to fork over $2,300 less for a
>>> product with unknown performance and from a manufacturer without a long
>>> history of quality. If after a year I hear that it's a better lens than
>> the
>>> Nocti I bought, fine. I'll kick myself around the block a few times while
>>> looking at the images caught over that year.
>>> But for quality of lens, I'll talk Leica and put my money where my mouth
>> is.
>>> 
>>> And as far as Erwin Putz, he's no god, but he does know lens measurement
>>> and has the historical perspective and experience to compare. So I do
>> trust
>>> his measurements and his opinions drawn from them to a degree. After that
>>> it's up to the photographer.
>>> 
>>> The only new lens I bought was the new 21/3.4, in large part based on
>>> Erwin's enthusiasm but also based on need (I don't tend to that wide in
>> low
>>> light), size (an incredibly compact 21) and cost (relative to the 1.4).
>>> 
>>> So all things being pretty equal (this lens vs the Noctilux) I'll give
>>> Leica a big benefit of doubt on their lens quality.
>>> Just my opinion, since I have nothing else to do until my kit arrives...
>>> :'-(
>> 
>> soon...you'll love it , I know you will, can't wait to see the results...
>> 
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I stand somewhat corrected......
>>>> 
>>>> What I should have said is:
>>>> 
>>>>> Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......even with
>> RF
>>>> Coupling.
>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind the cheapest CV lens has this coupling, and it is the 21/4
>> P
>>>> Color Skopar M mount at $419 with lens elements......
>>>> Hard to justify a $3K up lift in cost because of RF coupling.
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> Red735i at earthlink.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org
>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
>>>> Of
>>>> John
>>>> Collier
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:27 PM
>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nocti/0.95 is so 2009. How about a 2 LBS T0.95?
>>>> 
>>>> A 4/3 mount wouldn't require coupling to the rangefinder. I would assume
>>>> that the M mount version is coupled.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-02-08, at 10:13 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Price is listed as $8350 HKD..... in 4/3 mount.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is $1076 by today's exchange rate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> US Price is $4288 USD for an M mount.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is a LOT of HK labor hours for a different mount.......
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Bob Adler
>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> Bob Adler
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