Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/08

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Subject: [Leica] leica m10
From: henningw at (Henning Wulff)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:45:24 -0800
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They pretty much said they would come out with an M10 this year, as well as 
a smaller sensor system camera.

Other things they said:

Likely CMOS
Not Kodak; that was stated quite a while ago already.
As for the other features/suggestions, the only ones that interest me are a 
bigger buffer, faster processing and competitive high ISO performance and 
all the dynamic range possible. Battery life is fine; I carry enough spares 
and I certainly don't want any sort of add-on pack or something that makes 
the camera larger in deference to battery life. No movies, no live view, no 
autofocus. I would like a rangefinder that I can field adjust and bring 
fully back to spec easily. It should be quite possible to do this. Make the 
tool just as expensive as the present thingie to adjust the rangefinder 
height so that the majority won't be tempted to screw up their rangefinders, 
and only people who fork over the money for this multi-hundred dollar widget 
and swear on the holy book of their choice that they won't sue Leica if they 
bugger up their rangefinder can then do the adjustments.


On 2012-02-07, at 1:09 PM, Phil Forrest wrote:

> Well, soft goods make the money for camera manufacturers, not camera
> bodies. I can guarantee that if Leica put out such a device, they
> wouldn't be able to make enough to satisfy demand. They can't already
> on the M9 and its various models. Sure, it's not sexy but that's what
> happens when you make a product that is both mature and satisfies most
> of the user constituency. the bulk of M9 shooters don't want or need
> the features that are included in the big DSLRs. Once Leica goes that
> route and my M9 doesn't work anymore, I'll use an old Nikon. Like the
> company being slow to adapt and adopt new tech/ideas, I'll bet Leica
> users prefer the simplicity of shutter speed, aperture, iso, focus as
> the only controls.
> They shouldn't be forced to release a new camera model this year. What
> they should do is make little but needed improvements in their already
> existing line.
> Phil Forrest
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 21:40:32 +0100
> Nathan Wajsman <photo at> wrote:
>> Except that this autumn is the world's most important photo trade
>> show, Photokina in Cologne. It only happens every other year, and
>> Leica is expected to have something sexy and exciting for the
>> occasion. Extended batteries just don't cut it in the sexiness
>> department I'm afraid.
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> Blog:
>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Phil Forrest wrote:
>>> I think the best upgrade would be an accessory, not unlike the
>>> Leicavit, in which extended battery life could be gotten from.
>>> Either by a new totally rechargeable set of Li-Ion Leica-specific
>>> cells or by 6-8 rechargeable batteries available easily on the
>>> drugstore shelf. The ability to use Alkaline, Lithium and NiMH
>>> batteries could be added via a regulator switch in the new battery
>>> pack body. I've been dreaming of something like this for a few
>>> years now but no one has come up with it for some reason. I'm no
>>> electrical engineer, nor do i have the tools or materials to
>>> fashion the chassis of this battery pack.
>>> But THIS is what we need, for existing M8 and M9 bodies, not an M10.
>>> Phil Forrest
>>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:50:41 +0000 (GMT)
>>> FRANK DERNIE <frank.dernie at> wrote:
>>>> I don't actually -need- any of those :-)
>>>> I would like a better buffer and speed but I suspect the price we
>>>> have for the digital M being so small is no space for a big battery
>>>> and not much power to drive faster chips. I am not so sure that
>>>> battery technology has moved on far enough to resolve this. If it
>>>> needed to be bigger of heavier I would stay with the smaller buffer
>>>> since it is only rarely a limitation for me. I also like the idea
>>>> of a built in 1.4 magnifier.
>>>> I am actually pretty happy with my M9. It is overall the best
>>>> camera I have ever owned. FD
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: mehrdad <msadat at>
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 18:36
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] leica m10
>>>>> it seems that the new m digital is around the corner (sep/oct),
>>>>> what shall we expect after three years and 8k price?
>>>>> i for one do need the following
>>>>> 1) image stabilization built in to the body (they can licsnce this
>>>>> technology  from sony, thier old partner)
>>>>> 2) much better buffer and more frames per second
>>>>> 3) shooting movies with m (not for me)
>>>>> 4) fuji x10/pro like view finder
>>>>> 5) better battery life and better battery
>>>>> 6) 36 meg is now the norm, so something close
>>>>> 7) a built in 1.4x magnifier, that u can use at will
>>>>> 8) all the given dynamic range and high iso performance (it is now
>>>>> three yrs later)
>>>>> 9) a better price but i think is is truly a dream
>>>>> 10) do we care about live view?
>>>>> -- 
>>>>>  -------------------------------------
>>>>>  regards, mehrdad
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Henning Wulff
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