Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/08

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Subject: [Leica] leica m10
From: henningw at (Henning Wulff)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:49:59 -0800
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No matter how lovingly you polish those high ISO's into the bodywork of the 
Alfa, the engine will still leak oil.

On 2012-02-07, at 1:52 PM, Montie wrote:

> It's a "Bells & Whistles" world out there, but, IMO, most of the "Best
> Stuff" has already been made. 
> I'm satisfied winding down the road in my 35 year old Alfa spider with
> my 35 year old M4 around my neck! (some higher ISOs might be nice, though).
> ;-) 
> Montie
>>> Phil, you speak from the point of view of a rational photographer, a 
>>> point of view which I share. But that is not Leica's market segment 
>>> these days. The main market is nouveau riches in China and other 
>>> emerging markets, and dilettantes in the West, who want neck jewellery. 
>>> And that requires new models.
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> Blog:
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Phil Forrest wrote:
>> Well, soft goods make the money for camera manufacturers, not camera
>> bodies. I can guarantee that if Leica put out such a device, they
>> wouldn't be able to make enough to satisfy demand. They can't already
>> on the M9 and its various models. Sure, it's not sexy but that's what
>> happens when you make a product that is both mature and satisfies most
>> of the user constituency. the bulk of M9 shooters don't want or need
>> the features that are included in the big DSLRs. Once Leica goes that
>> route and my M9 doesn't work anymore, I'll use an old Nikon. Like the
>> company being slow to adapt and adopt new tech/ideas, I'll bet Leica
>> users prefer the simplicity of shutter speed, aperture, iso, focus as
>> the only controls.
>> They shouldn't be forced to release a new camera model this year. What
>> they should do is make little but needed improvements in their already
>> existing line.
>> Phil Forrest
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