Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Oh Ted, I'm sorry about the vanishing images problem. It's worse than the "where did I put that box of slides" problem because there's nothing tangible to look for - it's all out there, somewhere, on your hard drive. You need a decent workflow so your images are stored in the right place when you import them into Lightroom. I don't know how you did it. Probably having someone sit down with you and help you decide which way is best would be a Good Thing. There are enough differences between Macs and PCs that the person who does it should come from the same place. But I'm betting your images are out there and Lightroom just needs your help in locating them. It can do that in a relatively smart way, you just need to take a deep breath, find a quiet time when you can relax, have a buddy at your side to offer advice, and you'd be good to go. Really. Adam On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:14 AM, tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote: > Adam Bridge OFFERED: >>>> This is seriously neat and means that your original file is ALWAYS > there to be edited in its original state.<<<<<< > > Hi Adam, > That being the case how is it when I was shooting RAW and downloading into > Lightroom. All had been going fine and I'd do the same routine everytime. > WHEN ONE DAY???????? > > All I had on screen was about 2000 or more nice looking grey coloured 35mm > looking frames in the Lightroom folders / files? Pictures? Images? > Frames? NADA !!! Not one but blank grey 35mm frames.... Unfortunately lost > some important stuff. :-( > > My immediate response??? Screw this LR stuff.... went back to shooting > JPEG and using Photoshop and all has been perfect ever since. > > I keep hearing LIGHTROOM folks say.... "The images are in there you just > have to find them!" Well OK I have looked in every conceivable click on > spot..... same thing, " beautiful grey coloured 35mm blank frames!" > Another? "OFFLINE OR MISSING!" Yeah right, they sure as hell are missing! > >>>> This is seriously neat and means that your original file is ALWAYS >>>> there to be edited in its original state.<<<< > > I can only offer...... "REALLY?" And where might I find them? I have found > some in folders through the Photoshop system.. But hundreds of > others??????????????? no where in site. If they were giving away the very > best LR system for free I'd have doubts about taking it. Unfortunately > when I read all the good & great stuff you fok are sayng about Light Room. > > cheers, > ted > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom > > >> I'm not so sure I understand this non-destructive business. It is >> supposed to be the end-all answer to our problems, and answer to a >> question that seemed without an answer, and yet I've been doing the same >> thing for years. Simple, really, before photoshopping a file, save it >> with a different name, and do all you want to it, the original remains >> untouched. >> >> Oh well, I never said I was smart. >> >> Bill Pearce >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bridge >> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:01 AM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom >> >> On thing not mentioned: Lightroom is entirely non-destructive to your >> images. Everything it does is parametric - that is the changes are done >> on the fly. This is seriously neat and means that your original file is >> ALWAYS there to be edited in its original state. >> >> Photoshop doesn't do that unless you convert to smart filters. >> >> It's the creation of masks on the fly that is amazing inside Lightroom. I >> have a bit of an inkling on how it does it, but I sure admire the >> engineers who implemented those features. >> >> There are tasks that only Photoshop can do. If you need layers and >> compositing then Lightroom isn't it - although you can do much before you >> get to the point where you need those. >> >> I'm making these points, not to convince Mark that he's wrong, but simply >> to bring out a fundamental and profound difference between the two >> software environments. >> >> Adam >> >> On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:24 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> >>> http://mansurovs.com/photoshop-vs-lightroom >>> Here is a comparison. >>> There are hundreds of others you could find in a minute. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information