[Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom

[gpinkcp at msn.com (Gary Pinkerton)]

I've had same missing files problem that Dr. Ted mentions; tried usual 
procedures but they're still missing.

> From: tedgrant at shaw.ca
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:14:56 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
> 
> Adam Bridge OFFERED:
> >>> This is seriously neat and means that your original file is ALWAYS
> there to be edited in its original state.<<<<<<
> 
> Hi Adam,
> That being the case how is it when I was shooting RAW and downloading into 
> Lightroom. All had been going fine and I'd do the same routine everytime. 
> WHEN ONE DAY????????
> 
> All I had on screen was about 2000 or more nice looking grey coloured 35mm 
> looking frames in the Lightroom folders / files?  Pictures? Images? 
> Frames? 
> NADA !!! Not one but blank grey 35mm frames.... Unfortunately lost some 
> important stuff. :-(
> 
> My immediate response??? Screw this LR stuff.... went back to shooting 
> JPEG 
> and using Photoshop and all has been perfect ever since.
> 
> I keep hearing LIGHTROOM folks say.... "The images are in there you just 
> have to find them!" Well OK I have looked in every conceivable click on 
> spot..... same thing, " beautiful grey coloured 35mm blank frames!" 
> Another? 
> "OFFLINE OR MISSING!" Yeah right, they sure as hell are missing!
> 
> >>>This is seriously neat and means that your original file is ALWAYS 
> >>>there 
> >>>to be edited in its original state.<<<<
> 
> I can only offer...... "REALLY?" And where might I find them? I have found 
> some in folders through the Photoshop system.. But hundreds of 
> others??????????????? no where in site. If they were giving away the very 
> best LR system for free I'd have doubts about taking it. Unfortunately 
> when 
> I read all the good & great stuff you fok are sayng about Light Room.
> 
> cheers,
> ted
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
> 
> 
> > I'm not so sure I understand this non-destructive business. It is 
> > supposed 
> > to be the end-all answer to our problems, and answer to a question that 
> > seemed without an answer, and yet I've been doing the same thing for 
> > years. Simple, really, before photoshopping a file, save it with a 
> > different name, and do all you want to it, the original remains 
> > untouched.
> >
> > Oh well, I never said I was smart.
> >
> > Bill Pearce
> >
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Adam Bridge
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:01 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
> >
> > On thing not mentioned: Lightroom is entirely non-destructive to your 
> > images. Everything it does is parametric - that is the changes are done 
> > on 
> > the fly. This is seriously neat and means that your original file is 
> > ALWAYS there to be edited in its original state.
> >
> > Photoshop doesn't do that unless you convert to smart filters.
> >
> > It's the creation of masks on the fly that is amazing inside Lightroom. 
> > I 
> > have a bit of an inkling on how it does it, but I sure admire the 
> > engineers who implemented those features.
> >
> > There are tasks that only Photoshop can do. If you need layers and 
> > compositing then Lightroom isn't it - although you can do much before 
> > you 
> > get to the point where you need those.
> >
> > I'm making these points, not to convince Mark that he's wrong, but 
> > simply 
> > to bring out a fundamental and profound difference between the two 
> > software environments.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:24 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >
> >> http://mansurovs.com/photoshop-vs-lightroom
> >> Here is a comparison.
> >> There are hundreds of others you could find in a minute.
> >>
> >
> >
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