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Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 08:30:00 +0530
References: <CA316082.11037%mark@rabinergroup.com> <4F76CACB-98AF-4893-B0F8-0A1AAB2D5AB2@charter.net> <4E0CF540.3050408@cox.net> <4E0D16E7.3040309@cox.net>

Ken,
Try using Nik Viveza 2 and control points to precisely change the areas you
want. There is a 15 day trial version available:

http://www.niksoftware.com/viveza/en/entry.php

Cheers
Jayanand

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Here is another try:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/kcarney/CRW_1654trial.**jpg.html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/CRW_1654trial.jpg.html>
>
> It is just a trial.  I didn't do a very good job of cutting the mask, and
> the rooster's "colors" are off, but I can work on it some.  The adobe wall
> behind him is from the St. Francis of Assisi church in NM.  Probably all
> kinds of heresy going on here.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 6/30/2011 5:14 PM, Ken Carney wrote:
>
>> Thanks to both of you for the suggestions.  It was my fault not to locate
>> a better background - to tell the truth I was in a bit of a hurry to get 
>> out
>> of there.  I do need to bring out detail in the rooster.    I did punch up
>> the contrast, but that's the way I saw the image - sort of gritty.  It is 
>> a
>> scan from a Kodachrome 25 converted to b&w in Nik Silver Efex2.  Actually,
>> now that I think of it, the best solution is just to mask the background 
>> and
>> put him in front of a stone wall or similar.   Back to the drawing board
>> once more.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On 6/29/2011 10:27 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>>
>>> That's the problem with grab shots, no lighting control.
>>> If the guy was accommodating, as it appears he was, you could of walked
>>> him over to a better location, within a 20-30 foot radius.
>>> I pulled it off the page and ran it through PS. While there are a few
>>> tweezes that can be can done, it looked essentially the same. The flare 
>>> on
>>> the shoulder was easy to take care of. But it's all those areas in the
>>> background that are really tedious to deal with. Also, the chicken is too
>>> flat.
>>> Then there's always the old standby, when in doubt, flash fill.
>>> Scene fidelity tests, as a rule of thumb, should always be done prior to
>>> any shooting, per specific location. It doesn't matter if it's an
>>> auditorium, or a beach scape (which I dealt with over the past 24 hours).
>>> The custom space, sometimes marked C on a wheel, should be used to save
>>> key settings for lighting situation you're already familiar with.
>>> On paper, Mark, I would of printed it with a 3 filter, and then burned
>>> the face slightly with the #5, to separate the values.
>>> S.d.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think that there is no information in that area what so ever and you
>>>> are
>>>> right drying to darken it would make it worse. Though I'd lower the
>>>> contrast
>>>> of the entire pic by quite a bit and that might help a bit.
>>>> Some Photoshop major players would experiment with "cloning" in detail
>>>> from
>>>> the pattern of the jacket. I'm sure if it came to that that could be
>>>> done.
>>>> The image really to me looks way  jacked up in contrast like it could
>>>> have
>>>> been printed on 3 but you've printed it on Brovira 6.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like a scan from print. Can you find the neg and give it a go
>>>> from
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/lugalrabs/<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/>
>>>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  From: Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:02:38 -0500
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
>>>>>
>>>>> LUG:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an image I would like to print, but there is a flaw.  There is
>>>>> a
>>>>> flare on the right shoulder of the dude holding the fighting chicken.
>>>>>  I
>>>>> would like to get rid of it, but so far nothing has worked.  Perhaps
>>>>> nothing will work since there is no detail at all there.  I remember
>>>>> Ansel Adam's photo of the Pioneer Woman, where he regretted the blown
>>>>> out area on her shoulder, but concluded any fix would just worsen it.
>>>>> Of course, Ansel did not have PS for better or for worse.  Thanks very
>>>>> much for any suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.**org/v/kcarney/Haiti+fighting+**
>>>>> cocksBW2.jpg.html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/Haiti+fighting+cocksBW2.jpg.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> (I took this with the fabled Summicron f/2 - how come there is
>>>>> something
>>>>> less than perfect?)
>>>>>
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